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   Mario 🔒 (mario@don.tbully.me)'s status on Monday, 29-Apr-2024 19:41:04 JST Mario 🔒
   why tf are sata ssds the same price as nvme ssds?
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     narcolepsy and alcoholism :flag: (hj@shigusegubu.club)'s status on Monday, 29-Apr-2024 19:41:03 JST narcolepsy and alcoholism :flag:

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     @mario do you mean m.2 sata or sata sata?
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     narcolepsy and alcoholism :flag: (hj@shigusegubu.club)'s status on Monday, 29-Apr-2024 20:18:51 JST narcolepsy and alcoholism :flag:

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     @mario yeah that's weird then..
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     Mario 🔒 (mario@don.tbully.me)'s status on Monday, 29-Apr-2024 20:18:53 JST Mario 🔒

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     @hj sata sata :blobcatopenmouth:
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     Mario 🔒 (mario@don.tbully.me)'s status on Monday, 29-Apr-2024 20:23:17 JST Mario 🔒

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     @hj the chad https://www.idealo.de/preisvergleich/OffersOfProduct/201604364_-m-2-pcie-premium-1tb-intenso.html vs. the virgin https://www.idealo.de/preisvergleich/OffersOfProduct/6738796_-sata-iii-top-1tb-intenso.html
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     narcolepsy and alcoholism :flag: (hj@shigusegubu.club)'s status on Monday, 29-Apr-2024 20:24:00 JST narcolepsy and alcoholism :flag:

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     @mario one is "3D" TLC and other is MLC that might be the reason
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     narcolepsy and alcoholism :flag: (hj@shigusegubu.club)'s status on Monday, 29-Apr-2024 20:29:54 JST narcolepsy and alcoholism :flag:

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     @mario transfer rates are mostly just what type of controller the slap onto the board, and SATA SSDs are very much in demand. I mean, even M.2 SATAs exist and quite popular in somewhat niche applications. I have two of those - one is USB Pi4 case "addon" and other is an addon to a mITX case - it fills the slim-ODD slot and gives additional usb ports, card reader and M.2. SATA SSD, latter is just connected to motherboard using normal SATA cable.
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     Mario 🔒 (mario@don.tbully.me)'s status on Monday, 29-Apr-2024 20:29:57 JST Mario 🔒

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     @hj butbutbut the transfer rates still don't compare at all :blobcatgooglytrash:
     i wonder if it's a supply and demand thingy and no one wants SATA SSDs anymore :blobcatlul:
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     narcolepsy and alcoholism :flag: (hj@shigusegubu.club)'s status on Monday, 29-Apr-2024 20:42:24 JST narcolepsy and alcoholism :flag:

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     @mario M.2 is a connector, SATA and NVMe are essentially protocols. M.2 connector can expose multiple things at same time including PCIe, SATA, USB, it's kind of "internal USB-C" - it depends on what host can provide and what is connected to it.
     
     SATA is also a connector, confusingly, but that's just legacy for you.
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     Mario 🔒 (mario@don.tbully.me)'s status on Monday, 29-Apr-2024 20:42:26 JST Mario 🔒

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     @hj I never had M.2 SATA drives i think :think_nyan:
     butbut is the transfer speed for flash memory really just dependent on the controller? :blobcatopenmouth:
     alsoalsoalso i am confused about ports, protocols and flash types :blobcatgooglytrash:
     i thought that M.2 is a port like SATA, but there are also M.2 SATA SSDs :floofWoozy:
     is M.2 a formfactor maybe? :think_nyan:
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     narcolepsy and alcoholism :flag: (hj@shigusegubu.club)'s status on Monday, 29-Apr-2024 20:51:24 JST narcolepsy and alcoholism :flag:

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     @mario hopefully not, HDDs are still used especially large capacity ones.
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     Mario 🔒 (mario@don.tbully.me)'s status on Monday, 29-Apr-2024 20:51:29 JST Mario 🔒

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     @hj that's gewd to know thanks!! :blobcatoverlycute:
     do you think SATA ports at the main board will be deprecated at some point in favor for M.2? :blobcatopenmouth:
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     narcolepsy and alcoholism :flag: (hj@shigusegubu.club)'s status on Monday, 29-Apr-2024 20:58:39 JST narcolepsy and alcoholism :flag:

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     @mario i don't see HDDs being sold with USB connectors AND standardized dimensions/etc
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     Mario 🔒 (mario@don.tbully.me)'s status on Monday, 29-Apr-2024 20:58:40 JST Mario 🔒

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     @hj all my HDDs are in USB3 bays with little to no transfer speed loss tho :blobcat3c:
     they work really well :blobcatoverlycute:
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     narcolepsy and alcoholism :flag: (hj@shigusegubu.club)'s status on Monday, 29-Apr-2024 21:02:19 JST narcolepsy and alcoholism :flag:

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     @mario i have this
     
     it takes SATA drives. I run TrueNAS on it.
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     Mario 🔒 (mario@don.tbully.me)'s status on Monday, 29-Apr-2024 21:02:20 JST Mario 🔒

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     @hj i have two of these, they take 3.5" sata hdds and exposes them to my pc via usb :blobcat3c:
     
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     Mario 🔒 (mario@don.tbully.me)'s status on Monday, 29-Apr-2024 21:04:44 JST Mario 🔒

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     @hj when i move out any finally have my own router i'll try to build sth like this with a raspi and my bays :blobcat3c:
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     narcolepsy and alcoholism :flag: (hj@shigusegubu.club)'s status on Monday, 29-Apr-2024 21:05:26 JST narcolepsy and alcoholism :flag:

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     @mario dunno about using a Pi for those purposes tbh, i have a J1900 board in it and i kinda want to upgrade to be able to run jellyfin on it
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     djsumdog (djsumdog@djsumdog.com)'s status on Monday, 29-Apr-2024 21:08:56 JST djsumdog

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     I built into one of those too!
     
     https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s8Zed0qJKW4
     
     I ran Alpine on mine. I've since moved it all to a rackmount case ... I should really put the old case on Craigslist and/or eBay :bunthink:
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     narcolepsy and alcoholism :flag: (hj@shigusegubu.club)'s status on Monday, 29-Apr-2024 21:09:09 JST narcolepsy and alcoholism :flag:

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     @mario yeah. Pi's have hardware decoding but you literally have to pay extra for unlocking codes to even utilize it, and I don't think performance would be any good either. I'd have a separate machine with entry-level GPU (maybe intel) to do the task or add gpu into current one but that means sacrificing a bay
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     Mario 🔒 (mario@don.tbully.me)'s status on Monday, 29-Apr-2024 21:09:10 JST Mario 🔒

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     @hj that's a x86_64 cpu righto? :blobcatopenmouth:
     i was thinking about a pi because of the hw accelerated hevc they were claiming to be working on :blobcatgiggle2:
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     Xeon² (izaya@social.shadowkat.net)'s status on Monday, 29-Apr-2024 21:09:38 JST Xeon²

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     @hj @mario I have one of these bad boys :menherasmug:
     new server will only actually contain one (or two?) M.2 SSDs, the actual storage will live in here
     
     also the enterprise standard for SSDs is U.2, if you were interested
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     narcolepsy and alcoholism :flag: (hj@shigusegubu.club)'s status on Monday, 29-Apr-2024 21:11:25 JST narcolepsy and alcoholism :flag:

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     @djsumdog @mario >ryzen in that case
     
     man right now there's a passive cooled embedded J1900, I can't imagine putting anything that has high TDP and a fan, the case is literally full of SATA spaghetti
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     narcolepsy and alcoholism :flag: (hj@shigusegubu.club)'s status on Monday, 29-Apr-2024 21:15:26 JST narcolepsy and alcoholism :flag:

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     @mario i do have a DIY steambox but it has a very shitty CPU (some i5 from 2015 or so) which bottlenecks the system BADLY. I don't really like the idea of running jellyfin on it though because i keep alternating between steam session and kodi session (and plasma session) plus I'd really love to have it go to sleep when not used.
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     Mario 🔒 (mario@don.tbully.me)'s status on Monday, 29-Apr-2024 21:15:27 JST Mario 🔒

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     @hj yeee, maybe i should just go with with my current pc as a "home server" for when i eventually need to upgrade.
     it can do 4k reasonably well :blobcat3c:
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     narcolepsy and alcoholism :flag: (hj@shigusegubu.club)'s status on Monday, 29-Apr-2024 21:22:44 JST narcolepsy and alcoholism :flag:

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     @mario i don't want to people die trying to optimize code endlessly - i've been there. Also GPUs are just power hungry and the one in it right now isn't really good/well supported for transcoding purposes so eh.
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     Mario 🔒 (mario@don.tbully.me)'s status on Monday, 29-Apr-2024 21:22:49 JST Mario 🔒

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     @hj ppl need to make more efficient software :comfysob:
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     djsumdog (djsumdog@djsumdog.com)'s status on Monday, 29-Apr-2024 22:52:39 JST djsumdog

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     Yea, those 1->4 breakout cables really helped, or else I would have a SATA spaghetti mess too. That case is really difficult to build into. I've since moved the guts of my NAS into this thing .. way easier to cable manage.
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