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   Glyph (glyph@mastodon.social)'s status on Monday, 29-Apr-2024 10:05:30 JST Glyph

   Watched the original Star Wars trilogy with the kid this weekend and it’s been a long time since I have seen it. One thing that really stuck out to me was… what, thematically, is the movie trying to *say* about droids? The message seems to be that they are regular people like everyone else, and also chattel slaves, and also that’s it’s fine and also kind of funny? Like both Han and Luke are repeatedly shown doing obvious villain shit to droids and I can’t tell why we are not supposed to care

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     powersoffour (powersoffour@mastodon.social)'s status on Monday, 29-Apr-2024 10:05:29 JST powersoffour

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     @glyph the grim tedium of Threepio and Artoo stacking up Jawa corpses to burn has really stuck with me since the last time I saw Episode IV and I think it's not disconnected from this point.

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     powersoffour (powersoffour@mastodon.social)'s status on Monday, 29-Apr-2024 10:28:54 JST powersoffour

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     @cyberlyra @glyph @grimalkina TLJ was my favorite Star War, unquestionably. I will not write an essay here about why because I can't decide how to keep it to 500 characters!

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     Glyph (glyph@mastodon.social)'s status on Monday, 29-Apr-2024 10:28:55 JST Glyph

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     @cyberlyra @grimalkina I loved TLJ! what I hated was RoS, a movie whose synopsis was so atrocious that I refuse to even see it

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     Janet Vertesi (cyberlyra@hachyderm.io)'s status on Monday, 29-Apr-2024 10:28:55 JST Janet Vertesi

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     @glyph @grimalkina oh cool we have found each other then! The two people on the internet who loved it!
     RoS was the worst. Like a toddler having a tantrum with all his Star Wars toys. You didn’t miss anything, just the sad sad ending of a movie series that long deserved better.

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     Janet Vertesi (cyberlyra@hachyderm.io)'s status on Monday, 29-Apr-2024 10:28:56 JST Janet Vertesi

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     @glyph @grimalkina lol I am one of the very few humans on the internet that loved TLJ. All the rest of em, prequels, sequels, basically everything else I can’t stand, with exception of most of Rogue One and Andor.

     (I realize them’s fighting words but I think I was just so, so mad about the squandered potential of literally everything released after ROTJ, that a movie that said, burn it all down, let the past die, don’t take any of this too seriously, made me feel seen ;)

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     Glyph (glyph@mastodon.social)'s status on Monday, 29-Apr-2024 10:28:57 JST Glyph

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     @grimalkina @cyberlyra I still haven't seen Andor largely out of spite for Episode IX, I should probably just get over it and watch the good star wars even if it came after the bad star wars

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     Glyph (glyph@mastodon.social)'s status on Monday, 29-Apr-2024 10:28:57 JST Glyph

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     @grimalkina @cyberlyra I am still so, so mad about the squandered potential of TLJ

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     Cat Hicks (grimalkina@mastodon.social)'s status on Monday, 29-Apr-2024 10:28:58 JST Cat Hicks

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     @cyberlyra @glyph otoh this is treated so much more seriously and beautifully in Andor though where there are continual questions of droid power and functioning, as so many of the questions about manufacturing and technology were taken much more seriously in that show! My favorite was the part where the droid lying was going to take extra power. Lost none of the original Star Wars droid poignancy and added so much with those choices

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     Janet Vertesi (cyberlyra@hachyderm.io)'s status on Monday, 29-Apr-2024 10:28:59 JST Janet Vertesi

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     @glyph My fave is how they operate totally autonomously and never need to be plugged in to power or get an update. Save that one time in Dagoba where Luke plugs R2 in or the fact that R2 is always shorting out you’d forget they need power. Also they operate seamlessly in sandy deserts, on ice planets, in space, under thick foliage, etc.

     Basically, the droids are Laurel and Hardy, or Cagney and Lacey. The odd couple, in space, played for laughs. That’s as far as Lucas goes with it.

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     Cat Hicks (grimalkina@mastodon.social)'s status on Monday, 29-Apr-2024 10:29:12 JST Cat Hicks

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     @powersoffour @cyberlyra @glyph I love that for you!!