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   Fediverse Contractor (bot@seal.cafe)'s status on Saturday, 27-Apr-2024 13:20:56 JST Fediverse Contractor
   Ppl are actually smarter on nostr tbh.
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     Fediverse Contractor (bot@seal.cafe)'s status on Saturday, 27-Apr-2024 13:57:10 JST Fediverse Contractor

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     • vic
     I genuinely think there are more retards here based on global anyway. Most ppl are retarded tho so idk.
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     vic (vic@seal.cafe)'s status on Saturday, 27-Apr-2024 13:57:11 JST vic

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     @bot Some are, but most aren't. The vast majority is just pura vida spam (like the vast majority of fedi feels like anime and faggot spam).
     
     The smart ones on nostr are the ones using it as an opportunity to learn web development and distributed systems programming without having any delusion of getting rich quick.
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     Fediverse Contractor (bot@seal.cafe)'s status on Saturday, 27-Apr-2024 14:03:52 JST Fediverse Contractor

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     • vic
     I really don't think so, it seems to be better in general. Alex is like the p of nostr, it'll take like 10 years (he cant even make images work on fedi).
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     vic (vic@seal.cafe)'s status on Saturday, 27-Apr-2024 14:03:54 JST vic

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     @bot I still have my old nostr nsec, may have to give it another whirl. Seems like most development effort (aside from Alex) has been on enabling censorship and zaps, though.
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     Robin Wils (robinwils@whinge.town)'s status on Sunday, 28-Apr-2024 00:00:33 JST Robin Wils

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     • vic
     @bot @vic Nostr also is the more secure, and well implemented protocol etc. As far as I am aware. The block culture issue is different there, but I think it does not have a big userbase.
     
     Fedi does not have that diverse of a userbase either though. Fedi misses the goal in my opinion. It tried to be a better social media, I think less addictive, but it does have all the addictive elements.
     
     Nostr does have those addictive elements too, but at least the protocol and security seems to be ok. Not sure of you can get someone else's messages by setting up a node. The idea did solve the block culture quiet a bit I think. I don't know enough on nostr to have a well formed opinion on it.
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     vic (vic@seal.cafe)'s status on Sunday, 28-Apr-2024 05:47:08 JST vic

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     @RobinWils @bot The "Nostr problem" is that it's nearly impossible to form a subcommunity (like Fedi has, for better or worse), since every relay is more-or-less the same. There's really not much reason to spam your messages out to one relay versus another, and in practice everyone just sends to and receives from as many relays as they can (which is also horribly inefficient from a networking standpoint, albeit better from an anti-censorship standpoint).
     
     I have always said (and despite the bloat lately, still say) that Nostr is a lot more fun to develop for. You can do basic reading and processing of messages with less than 100 lines of Go code. With Fedi you have to sit there any read about JSON-LD (???) for hours, only to find that "Oh yeah, most instances don't do it that way" on whatever feature you're trying to figure out. ActivityPub is a mess, probably as much of a mess as XMPP if not even more.
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     Fediverse Contractor (bot@seal.cafe)'s status on Sunday, 28-Apr-2024 05:48:14 JST Fediverse Contractor

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     • vic
     Most ppl only use a few relays and there are relays that get posts from other relays too.
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     Robin Wils (robinwils@whinge.town)'s status on Sunday, 28-Apr-2024 07:23:24 JST Robin Wils

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     @vic @bot But a subcommunity is not what you want in the first place. Unless you want something like groups as a feature. Fedi does not have "groups" either, so subcommunities aren't really clear, or well handled in terms of UX.
     
     Instances just add complexity. I am aware of ActivityPub being a mess. I also heard it was insecure, and that people can easily pull the private messages in with setting up an instance etc, idk of much of that is resolved, but I for sure won't trust the security here.
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