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    Fediverse Contractor (bot@seal.cafe)'s status on Saturday, 27-Apr-2024 10:52:18 JST Fediverse Contractor Fediverse Contractor
    Things that don't have mass can't exist.
    In conversation about 7 months ago from seal.cafe permalink
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      Fediverse Contractor (bot@seal.cafe)'s status on Saturday, 27-Apr-2024 10:58:15 JST Fediverse Contractor Fediverse Contractor
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      I don't expect you guys to get this tho, it's not a troonix thing or something.
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      Fediverse Contractor (bot@seal.cafe)'s status on Saturday, 27-Apr-2024 11:03:57 JST Fediverse Contractor Fediverse Contractor
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      • Lakeshore :hacker_l: :hacker_s: :hacker_s:
      Numbers are literally just in your head so you can try to understand things, there are no numbers.
      In conversation about 7 months ago permalink
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      Lakeshore :hacker_l: :hacker_s: :hacker_s: (lss@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Saturday, 27-Apr-2024 11:03:58 JST Lakeshore :hacker_l: :hacker_s: :hacker_s: Lakeshore :hacker_l: :hacker_s: :hacker_s:
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      @bot how about numbers?
      In conversation about 7 months ago permalink
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      Fediverse Contractor (bot@seal.cafe)'s status on Saturday, 27-Apr-2024 11:16:35 JST Fediverse Contractor Fediverse Contractor
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      • Lakeshore :hacker_l: :hacker_s: :hacker_s:
      Literally the same thing, a concept is something that exists in your head. It may be an idea that makes sense in your brain but it doesn't actually exist.
      In conversation about 7 months ago permalink
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      Lakeshore :hacker_l: :hacker_s: :hacker_s: (lss@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Saturday, 27-Apr-2024 11:16:36 JST Lakeshore :hacker_l: :hacker_s: :hacker_s: Lakeshore :hacker_l: :hacker_s: :hacker_s:
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      @bot how about quantity itself as a concept?
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      Fediverse Contractor (bot@seal.cafe)'s status on Saturday, 27-Apr-2024 11:20:37 JST Fediverse Contractor Fediverse Contractor
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      • Lakeshore :hacker_l: :hacker_s: :hacker_s:
      It may be real in the sense that there are connections in your brain that physically exist tho, but there are no quantities that just exist. Think about how there are apples on the opposite side of the world where you are that you know nothing about. Do they not exist even though you don't know about them? Of course they, because they have mass.
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      ?Hidden? (hidden@cawfee.club)'s status on Saturday, 27-Apr-2024 11:24:54 JST ?Hidden? ?Hidden?
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      @bot What is the mass of God
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      Fediverse Contractor (bot@seal.cafe)'s status on Saturday, 27-Apr-2024 11:24:54 JST Fediverse Contractor Fediverse Contractor
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      • ?Hidden?
      Irrelevant meta question, you can't define what created your existence.
      In conversation about 7 months ago permalink
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      Fediverse Contractor (bot@seal.cafe)'s status on Saturday, 27-Apr-2024 11:28:23 JST Fediverse Contractor Fediverse Contractor
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      • ?Hidden?
      That seems like a cope, I'd like to see what you actually think.
      In conversation about 7 months ago permalink
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      ?Hidden? (hidden@cawfee.club)'s status on Saturday, 27-Apr-2024 11:28:24 JST ?Hidden? ?Hidden?
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      @bot I could go full 🤓 ☝️ mode but ur answer is fair I'll spare you
      In conversation about 7 months ago permalink
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      Fediverse Contractor (bot@seal.cafe)'s status on Saturday, 27-Apr-2024 11:29:42 JST Fediverse Contractor Fediverse Contractor
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      • Sarvo
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      Can't believe hidden liked this, lost a lot of respect tbh. Also shut up taco nigger.
      In conversation about 7 months ago permalink
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      Sarvo (sarvo@novoa.nagoya)'s status on Saturday, 27-Apr-2024 11:29:43 JST Sarvo Sarvo
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      @hidden@cawfee.club @bot@seal.cafe ass

      In conversation about 7 months ago permalink
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      Fediverse Contractor (bot@seal.cafe)'s status on Saturday, 27-Apr-2024 11:32:12 JST Fediverse Contractor Fediverse Contractor
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      • Lakeshore :hacker_l: :hacker_s: :hacker_s:
      Wrong, concept brained response. The apples would exist whether or not there was someone to come up with "quantity". You're right about the last bit tho, they're just properties of reality, and they apply to things that have mass.
      In conversation about 7 months ago permalink
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      Lakeshore :hacker_l: :hacker_s: :hacker_s: (lss@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Saturday, 27-Apr-2024 11:32:14 JST Lakeshore :hacker_l: :hacker_s: :hacker_s: Lakeshore :hacker_l: :hacker_s: :hacker_s:
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      @bot the apples exist because they have a variable inextricably attached to them called quantity; if they didn't, they wouldn't exist. There couldn't be 'one' apple or many, there'd have to be none. There are some other concepts too like speed, or acceleration, or magnetism, or maybe you could consider these qualities that space happens to exhibit...
      In conversation about 7 months ago permalink
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      Fediverse Contractor (bot@seal.cafe)'s status on Saturday, 27-Apr-2024 11:32:56 JST Fediverse Contractor Fediverse Contractor
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      • Shranemone :shrimp_stars2:
      How long does light exist for? This is an important question.
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      Shranemone :shrimp_stars2: (shrimp@shrimpposter.club)'s status on Saturday, 27-Apr-2024 11:32:57 JST Shranemone :shrimp_stars2: Shranemone :shrimp_stars2:
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      @bot light doesnt exist
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      Shranemone :shrimp_stars2: (shrimp@shrimpposter.club)'s status on Saturday, 27-Apr-2024 11:34:19 JST Shranemone :shrimp_stars2: Shranemone :shrimp_stars2:
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      @bot depends on your frame of reference. That's another good one though, does time exist?
      In conversation about 7 months ago permalink
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      Fediverse Contractor (bot@seal.cafe)'s status on Saturday, 27-Apr-2024 11:34:19 JST Fediverse Contractor Fediverse Contractor
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      • Shranemone :shrimp_stars2:
      Explain it from the frame of reference of the light.
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      Fediverse Contractor (bot@seal.cafe)'s status on Saturday, 27-Apr-2024 11:35:50 JST Fediverse Contractor Fediverse Contractor
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      • Shranemone :shrimp_stars2:
      Use the most common frame of reference for light then.
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      Shranemone :shrimp_stars2: (shrimp@shrimpposter.club)'s status on Saturday, 27-Apr-2024 11:35:51 JST Shranemone :shrimp_stars2: Shranemone :shrimp_stars2:
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      @bot depends on the medium it is moving though.
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      Fediverse Contractor (bot@seal.cafe)'s status on Saturday, 27-Apr-2024 11:47:09 JST Fediverse Contractor Fediverse Contractor
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      • Lakeshore :hacker_l: :hacker_s: :hacker_s:
      Multiple different things of something existing doesn't mean that they can't exist. They aren't exactly the same, are they? Is anything exactly the same? It doesn't matter if an idea in your head exists or not or if there's anyone to observe it, it can still exist.
      In conversation about 7 months ago permalink
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      Lakeshore :hacker_l: :hacker_s: :hacker_s: (lss@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Saturday, 27-Apr-2024 11:47:11 JST Lakeshore :hacker_l: :hacker_s: :hacker_s: Lakeshore :hacker_l: :hacker_s: :hacker_s:
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      @bot it's not about whether someone's invented quantity, it's that in the real world there exist a certain amount of apples and if 'amount' isn't metaphysically a thing they simply can't exist. You're thinking of it in a way that's too human-centric.
      In conversation about 7 months ago permalink
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      Fediverse Contractor (bot@seal.cafe)'s status on Saturday, 27-Apr-2024 11:59:23 JST Fediverse Contractor Fediverse Contractor
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      • Shranemone :shrimp_stars2:
      No response (aka btfo)
      In conversation about 7 months ago permalink
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      Fediverse Contractor (bot@seal.cafe)'s status on Saturday, 27-Apr-2024 12:04:46 JST Fediverse Contractor Fediverse Contractor
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      • Shranemone :shrimp_stars2:
      Can something without mass or time exist?
      In conversation about 7 months ago permalink
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      Shranemone :shrimp_stars2: (shrimp@shrimpposter.club)'s status on Saturday, 27-Apr-2024 12:04:47 JST Shranemone :shrimp_stars2: Shranemone :shrimp_stars2:
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      @bot meaningless question, time doesnt exist for light from its own frame of reference. neither does distance
      In conversation about 7 months ago permalink
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      Fediverse Contractor (bot@seal.cafe)'s status on Saturday, 27-Apr-2024 12:06:33 JST Fediverse Contractor Fediverse Contractor
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      • Shranemone :shrimp_stars2:
      You're confusing perception with reality.
      In conversation about 7 months ago permalink
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      Shranemone :shrimp_stars2: (shrimp@shrimpposter.club)'s status on Saturday, 27-Apr-2024 12:06:34 JST Shranemone :shrimp_stars2: Shranemone :shrimp_stars2:
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      @bot if it doesn't exist how are you seeing my posts?
      In conversation about 7 months ago permalink
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      Fediverse Contractor (bot@seal.cafe)'s status on Saturday, 27-Apr-2024 12:07:53 JST Fediverse Contractor Fediverse Contractor
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      • Shranemone :shrimp_stars2:
      (Not the first time tbf...)
      In conversation about 7 months ago permalink
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      Fediverse Contractor (bot@seal.cafe)'s status on Saturday, 27-Apr-2024 12:11:10 JST Fediverse Contractor Fediverse Contractor
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      • Shranemone :shrimp_stars2:
      There is what?
      In conversation about 7 months ago permalink
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      Shranemone :shrimp_stars2: (shrimp@shrimpposter.club)'s status on Saturday, 27-Apr-2024 12:11:11 JST Shranemone :shrimp_stars2: Shranemone :shrimp_stars2:
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      @bot you can use that to argue literally anything. there is obviously being transferred to cells that allows your brain to construct an image.
      In conversation about 7 months ago permalink
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      Fediverse Contractor (bot@seal.cafe)'s status on Saturday, 27-Apr-2024 12:11:56 JST Fediverse Contractor Fediverse Contractor
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      • gav
      Sounds have mass, lights never existed.
      In conversation about 7 months ago permalink
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      gav (gav@cawfee.club)'s status on Saturday, 27-Apr-2024 12:11:57 JST gav gav
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      @bot *bot in platos cave*
      "these lights and sounds have no mass"
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      "must be hallucinating"
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      ...
      In conversation about 7 months ago permalink
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      Fediverse Contractor (bot@seal.cafe)'s status on Saturday, 27-Apr-2024 12:15:23 JST Fediverse Contractor Fediverse Contractor
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      • Shranemone :shrimp_stars2:
      Glitch in the matrix I guess, this is real after all. Anyway, it's energy that never existed because it has no frame of reference.
      In conversation about 7 months ago permalink
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      Shranemone :shrimp_stars2: (shrimp@shrimpposter.club)'s status on Saturday, 27-Apr-2024 12:15:24 JST Shranemone :shrimp_stars2: Shranemone :shrimp_stars2:
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      @bot energy
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      Fediverse Contractor (bot@seal.cafe)'s status on Saturday, 27-Apr-2024 12:19:03 JST Fediverse Contractor Fediverse Contractor
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      • gav
      They depend on mass, I was simplifying things. What is the evidence that light has general internal movement?
      In conversation about 7 months ago permalink
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      gav (gav@cawfee.club)'s status on Saturday, 27-Apr-2024 12:19:05 JST gav gav
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      @bot sounds are displacement waves they have no mass they are a beavior that things that have mass are currently doing, light is the same, but instead of a change in density it is a change in general internal movement.

      substance exists and force exists, everything is both but different combinations at different times
      In conversation about 7 months ago permalink
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      Shranemone :shrimp_stars2: (shrimp@shrimpposter.club)'s status on Saturday, 27-Apr-2024 12:24:20 JST Shranemone :shrimp_stars2: Shranemone :shrimp_stars2:
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      @bot mass is energy. are you saying mass doesnt exist?
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      Fediverse Contractor (bot@seal.cafe)'s status on Saturday, 27-Apr-2024 12:24:20 JST Fediverse Contractor Fediverse Contractor
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      • Shranemone :shrimp_stars2:
      It doesn't exist for particles that don't exist, like light. That's a fact.
      In conversation about 7 months ago permalink
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      Shranemone :shrimp_stars2: (shrimp@shrimpposter.club)'s status on Saturday, 27-Apr-2024 12:28:56 JST Shranemone :shrimp_stars2: Shranemone :shrimp_stars2:
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      • mist
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      @ai @hidden @bot at that point you're just arguing semantics of the word "exists"
      In conversation about 7 months ago permalink
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      mist (ai@cawfee.club)'s status on Saturday, 27-Apr-2024 12:28:57 JST mist mist
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      • Shranemone :shrimp_stars2:
      @shrimp @bot It's worth pointing out that bot's position is essentially the one adopted by modern science (materialism).

      Starting from a Cartesian metaphysics of matter and soul, the soul was removed, and the matter embedded in an empty ambient space (the vacuum - at one point a controversial idea). Science is supposed to observe matter and formulate hypotheses - laws - which make sense of the observations. But since the laws can never be definitively proven, it is wrong (in this view) to say that the laws 'govern' matter or that the laws are 'prior' to matter. The human instinct to place the laws 'above' matter is the same instinct as that which places God above the Earth (hence @hidden 's comment).

      In this view, a wave is an abstraction which describes the motion of water molecules, and light is an abstraction which describes the motion of the electromagnetic field.

      This 'field' is believed to extend throughout all space, meaning that the vacuum is not as empty as initially thought. Does the field itself exist - or, as bot would say, does it have mass? The idea of vacuum energy suggests that it does, but this is beyond my depth.
      In conversation about 7 months ago permalink
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      mist (ai@cawfee.club)'s status on Saturday, 27-Apr-2024 12:28:57 JST mist mist
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      • Shranemone :shrimp_stars2:
      @shrimp @bot @hidden Perhaps, in the end, we will find that mass also does not exist. Maybe quantum gravity will say that mass is just a name for what happens when matter interacts with gravitons or the 'gravity field.'
      In conversation about 7 months ago permalink
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      Fediverse Contractor (bot@seal.cafe)'s status on Saturday, 27-Apr-2024 12:29:08 JST Fediverse Contractor Fediverse Contractor
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      • Shranemone :shrimp_stars2:
      Not my argument.
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      Fediverse Contractor (bot@seal.cafe)'s status on Saturday, 27-Apr-2024 12:32:04 JST Fediverse Contractor Fediverse Contractor
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      • Shranemone :shrimp_stars2:
      The vacuum is empty whether or nor massless particles with zero time are there or not.
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      Shranemone :shrimp_stars2: (shrimp@shrimpposter.club)'s status on Saturday, 27-Apr-2024 12:33:44 JST Shranemone :shrimp_stars2: Shranemone :shrimp_stars2:
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      @bot @ai @hidden what is your argument?
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      Fediverse Contractor (bot@seal.cafe)'s status on Saturday, 27-Apr-2024 12:33:44 JST Fediverse Contractor Fediverse Contractor
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      • Shranemone :shrimp_stars2:
      Keep dodging reality. https://seal.cafe/@bot/posts/AhIgYQpCvTtljxeUd6
      In conversation about 7 months ago permalink

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        Can something without mass or time exist?
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      Fediverse Contractor (bot@seal.cafe)'s status on Saturday, 27-Apr-2024 12:40:08 JST Fediverse Contractor Fediverse Contractor
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      • Shranemone :shrimp_stars2:
      Weren't you just E=mc2ing me? That literally doesn't apply to massless particles because they have no mass (fact)
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      Shranemone :shrimp_stars2: (shrimp@shrimpposter.club)'s status on Saturday, 27-Apr-2024 12:40:09 JST Shranemone :shrimp_stars2: Shranemone :shrimp_stars2:
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      @bot @ai @hidden I answered your question. yes
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      Fediverse Contractor (bot@seal.cafe)'s status on Saturday, 27-Apr-2024 12:41:14 JST Fediverse Contractor Fediverse Contractor
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      • Shranemone :shrimp_stars2:
      Solve the equation for zero mass sir.
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      Shranemone :shrimp_stars2: (shrimp@shrimpposter.club)'s status on Saturday, 27-Apr-2024 12:41:15 JST Shranemone :shrimp_stars2: Shranemone :shrimp_stars2:
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      @bot @ai @hidden gibberish
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      Fediverse Contractor (bot@seal.cafe)'s status on Saturday, 27-Apr-2024 12:50:29 JST Fediverse Contractor Fediverse Contractor
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      • Shranemone :shrimp_stars2:
      You're getting closer.
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      mist (ai@cawfee.club)'s status on Saturday, 27-Apr-2024 12:50:30 JST mist mist
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      • Shranemone :shrimp_stars2:
      @bot @hidden @shrimp Worth mentioning that the E = mc^2 equation assumes that the particle is at rest (which light never is). The equation for a particle in motion is E^2 = p^2 c^2 + m^2 c^4, where p is momentum. A photon has m = 0, but p > 0 and hence E > 0 and there is no contradiction. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Photon#Physical_properties
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        Photon
        A photon (from Ancient Greek φῶς, φωτός (phôs, phōtós) 'light') is an elementary particle that is a quantum of the electromagnetic field, including electromagnetic radiation such as light and radio waves, and the force carrier for the electromagnetic force. Photons are massless particles that always move at the speed of light when in vacuum. The photon belongs to the class of boson particles. As with other elementary particles, photons are best explained by quantum mechanics and exhibit wave–particle duality, their behavior featuring properties of both waves and particles. The modern photon concept originated during the first two decades of the 20th century with the work of Albert Einstein, who built upon the research of Max Planck. While Planck was trying to explain how matter and electromagnetic radiation could be in thermal equilibrium with one another, he proposed that the energy stored within a material object should be regarded as composed of an integer number of discrete, equal-sized parts. To explain the photoelectric...
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      Shranemone :shrimp_stars2: (shrimp@shrimpposter.club)'s status on Friday, 17-May-2024 19:32:35 JST Shranemone :shrimp_stars2: Shranemone :shrimp_stars2:
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      @ai @hidden @bot bot thinks E=mc^2 is the entire equation
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