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   augustus pugin 🌖 (augustus@shitposter.world)'s status on Tuesday, 23-Apr-2024 04:25:27 JST augustus pugin 🌖
   >“Watch out for false prophets. They come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ferocious wolves. 16 By their fruit you will recognize them. Do people pick grapes from thornbushes, or figs from thistles? 17 Likewise, every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree bears bad fruit. 18 A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, and a bad tree cannot bear good fruit. 19 Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. 20 Thus, by their fruit you will recognize them.
   based? eugenics pilled?
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     Sick Sun (sun@shitposter.world)'s status on Tuesday, 23-Apr-2024 04:25:21 JST Sick Sun

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     @augustus @Robert_Vinson there is one god that created the universe but you can become a subordinate god of your own planet if you do everything right.
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     augustus pugin 🌖 (augustus@shitposter.world)'s status on Tuesday, 23-Apr-2024 04:25:22 JST augustus pugin 🌖

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     @Robert_Vinson Mormonism believes in multiple gods? epic. I'd say ole Joe should watch out he doesn't get accused of heresy like Marcion and Arius, but it's not like any Christian denomination really sees them as Christian in the first place
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     Bobby (robert_vinson@liberdon.com)'s status on Tuesday, 23-Apr-2024 04:25:24 JST Bobby

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     "[T]he doctrine of a plurality of Gods is as prominent in the Bible as any other doctrine. . . . The head God organized the heavens and the earth. I defy all the world to refute me. In the beginning the heads of the Gods organized the heavens and the earth. Now the learned priests and the people rage, and the heathen imagine a vain thing."
     https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Joseph_Smith,_Jr.

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     augustus pugin 🌖 (augustus@shitposter.world)'s status on Tuesday, 23-Apr-2024 04:25:25 JST augustus pugin 🌖

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     @Robert_Vinson cult leader grindset
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     Bobby (robert_vinson@liberdon.com)'s status on Tuesday, 23-Apr-2024 04:25:26 JST Bobby

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     "I have more to boast of than ever any man had. I am the only man that has ever been able to keep a whole church together since the days of Adam. A large majority of the whole have stood by me. Neither Paul, John, Peter, nor Jesus ever did it. I boast that no man ever did such a work as I. The followers of Jesus ran away from Him; but the Latter-day Saints never ran away from me yet."
     https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Joseph_Smith,_Jr.

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     Sick Sun (sun@shitposter.world)'s status on Tuesday, 23-Apr-2024 04:29:09 JST Sick Sun

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     @augustus @Robert_Vinson That quote is from Young's Adam-God theory which was never accepted by most of the church body and after Smith's death they declared it a heresy.
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     augustus pugin 🌖 (augustus@shitposter.world)'s status on Tuesday, 23-Apr-2024 04:29:10 JST augustus pugin 🌖

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     @Robert_Vinson I always thought Elohim was plural to begin with since the -im suffix is usually plural, El meaning god, so its like "gods"
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     Bobby (robert_vinson@liberdon.com)'s status on Tuesday, 23-Apr-2024 04:29:11 JST Bobby

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     "It is true that the earth was organized by three distinct characters, namely, Eloheim, Yahovah, and Michael, these three forming a quorum, as in all heavenly bodies, and in organizing element, perfectly represented in the Deity, as Father, Son, and Holy Ghost."
     https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Brigham_Young

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     Sick Sun (sun@shitposter.world)'s status on Tuesday, 23-Apr-2024 04:29:59 JST Sick Sun

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     @augustus @Robert_Vinson Elohim were basically an angelic council
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     augustus pugin 🌖 (augustus@shitposter.world)'s status on Tuesday, 23-Apr-2024 04:31:54 JST augustus pugin 🌖

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     @sun @Robert_Vinson do you know if the church has a hierarchical structure? is there like a present day pope or council of mormonism which defines doctrine etc.
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     Sick Sun (sun@shitposter.world)'s status on Tuesday, 23-Apr-2024 04:31:54 JST Sick Sun

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     @augustus @Robert_Vinson Mormons have a saying:
     
     The Pope is infallible but Catholics don't believe it. The [Mormon] Prophet is not infallible but Mormons don't believe it.
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     Sick Sun (sun@shitposter.world)'s status on Tuesday, 23-Apr-2024 04:35:49 JST Sick Sun

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     @augustus @Robert_Vinson To answer your question though, revelation comes to the Prophet who is the head of the church, and it has to be sustained by a group of 12 apostles
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     Sick Sun (sun@shitposter.world)'s status on Tuesday, 23-Apr-2024 04:44:11 JST Sick Sun

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     @augustus @Robert_Vinson joseph smith gave them back to the angel moroni
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     augustus pugin 🌖 (augustus@shitposter.world)'s status on Tuesday, 23-Apr-2024 04:44:12 JST augustus pugin 🌖

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     @sun @Robert_Vinson and also what happened to the engraved plates?
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     Bobby (robert_vinson@liberdon.com)'s status on Tuesday, 23-Apr-2024 04:47:12 JST Bobby

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     @sun @augustus

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     Sick Sun (sun@shitposter.world)'s status on Tuesday, 23-Apr-2024 04:48:34 JST Sick Sun

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     @Robert_Vinson @augustus Mormon cosmology is different. Angels are direct children of God and humans are angels born into fallible flesh. demons in mormonism are premortal fallen angels.
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     Bobby (robert_vinson@liberdon.com)'s status on Tuesday, 23-Apr-2024 04:48:37 JST Bobby

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     @sun @augustus
     "Those, however, who preside over rivers and seas (either demons or gods, as they call them), they would term gods."
     https://www.newadvent.org/fathers/04165.htm

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     Sick Sun (sun@shitposter.world)'s status on Tuesday, 23-Apr-2024 04:50:56 JST Sick Sun

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     @augustus @Robert_Vinson oh, could be.
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     augustus pugin 🌖 (augustus@shitposter.world)'s status on Tuesday, 23-Apr-2024 04:50:57 JST augustus pugin 🌖

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     @sun @Robert_Vinson the disembodied format of Mr Vinson's posts screams content bot to me
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     Sick Sun (sun@shitposter.world)'s status on Tuesday, 23-Apr-2024 04:51:14 JST Sick Sun

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     @augustus he posted a sun man picture at me though