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   🎓 Doc Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 (freemo@qoto.org)'s status on Friday, 19-Apr-2024 09:54:16 JST 🎓 Doc Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱

   The alt-left will actually try to tell you with a straight face that this man isnt senile... yea ok

   https://youtu.be/DQXQINalCF4?si=mrUn4bykP_8D4gxp

   #Biden #USPol

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     Call me Sam (jcsamuelson@qoto.org)'s status on Friday, 19-Apr-2024 19:45:46 JST Call me Sam

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     @freemo It's a time-honored tradition to ridicule Presidential gaffes. Biden, for all his many flaws, is hardly the first or worst.

     You piqued my curiosity, though: What is the "alt left?" I mean, I now there were many on the right back in 2016 casting about for a way to paint the left with the same brush as the "alt right" painted itself, and some of them settled on "alt left," but has the term ever stuck and/or had any non-arbitrary meaning? After all, the apple hasn't fallen far from the anti-fascist apple tree that grew up in the early-mid 20th, so it's hard to conceive of it as "alt" in any meaningful way.

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     Call me Sam (jcsamuelson@qoto.org)'s status on Friday, 19-Apr-2024 19:45:58 JST Call me Sam

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     @freemo It's a time-honored tradition to ridicule Presidential gaffes. Biden, for all his many flaws, is hardly the first or worst.

     You piqued my curiosity, though: What is the "alt left?" I mean, I know there were many on the right back in 2016 casting about for a way to paint the left with the same brush as the "alt right" painted itself, and some of them settled on "alt left," but has the term ever stuck and/or had any non-arbitrary meaning? After all, the apple hasn't fallen far from the anti-fascist apple tree that grew up in the early-mid 20th, so it's hard to conceive of it as "alt" in any meaningful way.

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     🎓 Doc Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 (freemo@qoto.org)'s status on Friday, 19-Apr-2024 19:52:40 JST 🎓 Doc Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱

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     • Call me Sam

     @jcsamuelson The alt-left would be the extremist elements of the left, those violent or disruptive to anti-free speech views or similar veins of extremes.

     As for Biden, calling a senile episode, something has regularly, a "gaffe" is a bit reductionist IMO.

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     🌲-alist (threalist@social.fbxl.net)'s status on Friday, 19-Apr-2024 20:12:31 JST 🌲-alist

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     > It's a time-honored tradition to ridicule Presidential gaffes
     
     Can you share an example of this from the mainstream media for Biden, Obama, or Clinton?
     
     I know I could fill pages from just Trump and Bush.
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     🎓 Doc Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 (freemo@qoto.org)'s status on Friday, 19-Apr-2024 20:37:13 JST 🎓 Doc Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱

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     @threalist

     Iassume by "the main stream media" you include the right-aligned media, which being 50% of the population is certainly mainstream. You really dont think any of the right-leaning mainstream media has ever made fun of those three presidents... really?

     @jcsamuelson

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     Call me Sam (jcsamuelson@qoto.org)'s status on Saturday, 20-Apr-2024 10:13:44 JST Call me Sam

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     @freemo Call me simple, but to me a "gaffe" is really nothing more than what Merriam-Webster says it is -- i.e., a social or diplomatic blunder or noticeable mistake. Biden's flub in that video certainly falls into that category. I just choose not to take it farther than that.

     As for alt left, I understand that it's aimed generically at the far (or extremist) left. I simply wondered if you had something more meaningful in mind. I personally don't find it helpful because it can be slapped on any leftist who happens to rub someone the wrong way.

     @threalist @mike805

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     🎓 Doc Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 (freemo@qoto.org)'s status on Saturday, 20-Apr-2024 11:44:02 JST 🎓 Doc Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱

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     @jcsamuelson @mike805

     Call me simple, but to me a “gaffe” is really nothing more than what Merriam-Webster says it is – i.e., a social or diplomatic blunder or noticeable mistake. Biden’s flub in that video certainly falls into that category. I just choose not to take it farther than that.

     Fair, it is a gaffe caused by his senility and due to it being a repeated pattern makes his senility hard to deny. But sure, its a gaffe in that sense.

     As for alt left, I understand that it’s aimed generically at the far (or extremist) left. I simply wondered if you had something more meaningful in mind. I personally don’t find it helpful because it can be slapped on any leftist who happens to rub someone the wrong way.

     Agreed, just like the term alt-left.