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   Bread up, Bro (sickburnbro@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 17-Apr-2024 21:23:41 JST Bread up, Bro
   this is going back to the "old technology" thing.
   
   internal combustion is a very old technology. Fuel injection is an old technology.
   
   All immobolizer technologies rely on disabling access to the factory electronics. But once you are breaking into a car, there are a limited amount of ways to keep those soft squishy interiors safe.
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     Ulysses (professionalbigot69@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 17-Apr-2024 21:29:13 JST Ulysses

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     @sickburnbro aren't there heatmaps for where these vehicles usually get stolen from?
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     Bread up, Bro (sickburnbro@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 17-Apr-2024 21:29:13 JST Bread up, Bro

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     @professionalbigot69 yes, I can't find any recent ones for the full US with a simple search, though.
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     eee (eee@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 17-Apr-2024 21:37:47 JST eee

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     @sickburnbro when you look into how theyre exploiting keyless entry you should start to hate
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     Bread up, Bro (sickburnbro@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 17-Apr-2024 21:37:47 JST Bread up, Bro

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     @eee brother, I know how there were problems with the pushbutton keyless entry like a decade ago.
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     Bread up, Bro (sickburnbro@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 17-Apr-2024 22:42:15 JST Bread up, Bro

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     • VikingWays
     @VikingWays @eee iirc, there are only so many keycodes, and people have devices that cycle through the codes
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     VikingWays (vikingways@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 17-Apr-2024 22:42:16 JST VikingWays

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     @eee @sickburnbro Care to elaborate?
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     eee (eee@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 17-Apr-2024 23:17:16 JST eee

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     • VikingWays
     @sickburnbro @VikingWays not just that, they simply carry the key fob signal further with an antenna
     grug low tech attack
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     Bread up, Bro (sickburnbro@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 17-Apr-2024 23:27:02 JST Bread up, Bro

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     • VikingWays
     @eee @VikingWays yeah, that's what they do with the proximity based ones that have the "if you have the fob on you, press button to unlock"
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     teknomunk (teknomunk@apogee.polaris-1.work)'s status on Wednesday, 17-Apr-2024 23:28:21 JST teknomunk

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     • VikingWays
     @sickburnbro @eee @VikingWays Also, unless the keyfob is using cryptography that protects against replay attacks to make the unlock code, a radio receiver can just read the unlocl code off the radio signal between the keyfob and the car.
     
     Implememting such a thing is complicated and expensive, so it doesn't get done. A simple circuit like a garage door opener works well enough most of the time.
     
     :02_shrug:
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