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    Author in Mourning (jnye@mstdn.plus)'s status on Saturday, 13-Apr-2024 01:13:37 JST Author in Mourning Author in Mourning

    How to know when you've crossed over to full, freakin' paranoia?? When you read an article like this & immediately envision #Christofascist legislation to grow "abandoned" frozen embryos via artificial wombs so they can become neglected, traumatized kids--oops, I mean properly-educated RW voters. Voila... the next anti-abortion tool. 🤦♀️

    I def need a day away from the computer.

    #autonomy #USPol

    https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2024/04/12/1241895501/artificial-womb-premature-birth

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      HistoPol (#HP) 🏴 🇺🇸 🏴 (histopol@mastodon.social)'s status on Saturday, 13-Apr-2024 01:13:36 JST HistoPol (#HP) 🏴 🇺🇸  🏴 HistoPol (#HP) 🏴 🇺🇸 🏴
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      @jnye

      🫂

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      HistoPol (#HP) 🏴 🇺🇸 🏴 (histopol@mastodon.social)'s status on Saturday, 13-Apr-2024 01:16:55 JST HistoPol (#HP) 🏴 🇺🇸  🏴 HistoPol (#HP) 🏴 🇺🇸 🏴
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      I can top this up, I think:

      "Today, it's a pig fetus that Haller and his colleagues will be using to test their artificial womb. But their hope is that someday, technology like this will help humans survive extremely premature birth and avoid serious complications, such as blindness and permanent damage to lungs and brains."

      If this becomes a mature technology, the MAGA fascist can realize the #GOPHandmaidsTale without needing handmaids. Women will become obsolete, at least in their...

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      HistoPol (#HP) 🏴 🇺🇸 🏴 (histopol@mastodon.social)'s status on Saturday, 13-Apr-2024 01:21:44 JST HistoPol (#HP) 🏴 🇺🇸  🏴 HistoPol (#HP) 🏴 🇺🇸 🏴
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      @jnye

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      ...quest of "counterbalancing" the imagined effects of the "#GreatReplacementTheory."

      Reality would be even worse than #SciFi: #MargaretAtwood's #TheHandmaidsTale or #AldousHuxley's #BraveNewWorld.

      //

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      Coach Pāṇini ® (paninid@mastodon.world)'s status on Saturday, 13-Apr-2024 16:10:36 JST Coach Pāṇini ® Coach Pāṇini ®
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      • HistoPol (#HP) 🏴 🇺🇸 🏴

      @HistoPol @jnye

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      HistoPol (#HP) 🏴 🇺🇸 🏴 (histopol@mastodon.social)'s status on Saturday, 13-Apr-2024 16:34:10 JST HistoPol (#HP) 🏴 🇺🇸  🏴 HistoPol (#HP) 🏴 🇺🇸 🏴
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      @jnye

      #ArtificialWombs #Ethics #Biotechnology #ReproductiveTechnology

      (1/n)

      Where to start?

      Humanity, as well as Earth, don't need this "reproductive machine" envisioned in the classic son, "In The Year 2525"*. Not only the ethical implications are disastrous.
      Many richer people will be able to pretty much procreate as they like, combined with existing technologies like #IVF.

      Super soldiers of the type of #CaptainAmerica could be mass-produced without much...

      *
      https://youtu.be/izQB2-Kmiic

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      1. Zager And Evans - In The Year 2525
        from eitan19611
        As years goes by, We can find Zager & Evans visions were right!"In The Year 9595, I'm kinda wonderin if man is gonna be alive,He's taken everything this old ...
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      Author in Mourning (jnye@mstdn.plus)'s status on Saturday, 13-Apr-2024 16:34:11 JST Author in Mourning Author in Mourning
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      • HistoPol (#HP) 🏴 🇺🇸 🏴

      @HistoPol
      Prob will have more thoughts on this when I'm not quite as tired as I am right now.

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      HistoPol (#HP) 🏴 🇺🇸 🏴 (histopol@mastodon.social)'s status on Saturday, 13-Apr-2024 16:42:22 JST HistoPol (#HP) 🏴 🇺🇸  🏴 HistoPol (#HP) 🏴 🇺🇸 🏴
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      @jnye

      #ArtificialWombs #Ethics #Biotechnology #ReproductiveTechnology

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      ...restraints.

      AFAIC, birth by a non-mother of this type will, however, also have adverse impacts on the child's immune system, similar to the one's born through a #CesareanSection:

      "The results of the studies included indicated that children delivered by cesarean section more commonly developed respiratory tract infections, obesity...

      2)
      https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7662709/

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      1. Domain not in remote thumbnail source whitelist: www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
        Pediatrics Consequences of Caesarean Section—A Systematic Review and Meta-Analysis
        Background: Cesarean section is a surgical procedure, which is the most frequently performed in gynecology and obstetrics. It is commonly believed that an operative delivery is a less painful and safer mode of delivery, which translates into an increasing ...
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      HistoPol (#HP) 🏴 🇺🇸 🏴 (histopol@mastodon.social)'s status on Saturday, 13-Apr-2024 16:46:10 JST HistoPol (#HP) 🏴 🇺🇸  🏴 HistoPol (#HP) 🏴 🇺🇸 🏴
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      @jnye

      #ArtificialWombs #Ethics #Biotechnology #ReproductiveTechnology

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      ...and the manifestations of asthma than children delivered vaginally." 2)

      And the likelihood of serious mental-health issues, just taking as pars pro toto the doubts of many adopted children about their biologic "real" mother.

      And then let's get back to Earth 🌎. This planet doesn’t need any more specimen of the type homo sapiens (or its mutations.) The current #ClimateCrisis can easily be attributed to a sole...

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      HistoPol (#HP) 🏴 🇺🇸 🏴 (histopol@mastodon.social)'s status on Saturday, 13-Apr-2024 16:53:20 JST HistoPol (#HP) 🏴 🇺🇸  🏴 HistoPol (#HP) 🏴 🇺🇸 🏴
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      @jnye

      #ArtificialWombs #Ethics #Biotechnology #ReproductiveTechnology

      (4/n)

      ...factor, #overpopulation. Earth has been hit by the shockwaves of a #PopulationBomb and is suffering from the explosion's fallout of currently 8 billion people. We have been in #overshoot for decades and are all living on borrowed time, the so-called #PhantomCarryingCapacity of #Earth. 4)

      A mass #ExtinctionLevelEvent began decades ago, and species are...

      4)
      https://mastodon.social/@HistoPol/112047736480954983

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        #Overshoot #PhantomCarryingCapacity #ClimateCrisis (4/n) "...meant a much lower #crop yield, but new technologies allowed farmers to #pump water out of deep underground #aquifers. Also, scientists developed new high-yield crop varieties that never existed in nature." "However, *this increased #CarryingCapacity [of earth] is an illusion.* William R. #Catton, author of #Overshoot: The Ecological Basis of Revolutionary Change, called it “phantom carrying capacity.” "Our ability to feed..."
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      HistoPol (#HP) 🏴 🇺🇸 🏴 (histopol@mastodon.social)'s status on Saturday, 13-Apr-2024 16:53:44 JST HistoPol (#HP) 🏴 🇺🇸  🏴 HistoPol (#HP) 🏴 🇺🇸 🏴
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      @jnye

      #ArtificialWombs #Ethics #Biotechnology #ReproductiveTechnology

      (4/n)

      ...factor, #overpopulation. Earth has been hit by the shockwaves of a #PopulationBomb and is suffering from the explosion's fallout of currently 8 billion people. We have been in #overshoot for decades and are all living on borrowed time, the so-called #PhantomCarryingCapacity of #Earth. 4)

      A mass #ExtinctionLevelEvent (#ELE) began decades ago, and species are...

      4)
      https://mastodon.social/@HistoPol/112047736480954983

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        HistoPol (#HP) (@HistoPol@mastodon.social)
        #Overshoot #PhantomCarryingCapacity #ClimateCrisis (4/n) "...meant a much lower #crop yield, but new technologies allowed farmers to #pump water out of deep underground #aquifers. Also, scientists developed new high-yield crop varieties that never existed in nature." "However, *this increased #CarryingCapacity [of earth] is an illusion.* William R. #Catton, author of #Overshoot: The Ecological Basis of Revolutionary Change, called it “phantom carrying capacity.” "Our ability to feed..."
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      HistoPol (#HP) 🏴 🇺🇸 🏴 (histopol@mastodon.social)'s status on Saturday, 13-Apr-2024 17:02:25 JST HistoPol (#HP) 🏴 🇺🇸  🏴 HistoPol (#HP) 🏴 🇺🇸 🏴
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      #ArtificialWombs #Ethics #Biotechnology #ReproductiveTechnology

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      ...disappearing at a breathtaking rate.

      And then there is also yet another ethical dimension, that of #fascist #eugenics. Who decides who will live or what will be procreated #IVF and then carried to term by an #ArtificialWomb?

      #Humanity has already messed around enough with #evolution. Some combinations of the human #genome might simply not be meant to...

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      HistoPol (#HP) 🏴 🇺🇸 🏴 (histopol@mastodon.social)'s status on Saturday, 13-Apr-2024 17:10:41 JST HistoPol (#HP) 🏴 🇺🇸  🏴 HistoPol (#HP) 🏴 🇺🇸 🏴
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      @jnye

      #ArtificialWombs #Ethics #Biotechnology #ReproductiveTechnology

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      ...produce offspring. Once again, humankind is attempting to play God.

      I hardly ever say this, but no, humanity and Earth do not only need this new technology, quite the opposite is true: any such scientific endeavor to create an #ArtificialWomb should be strictly prohibited and severely punished.

      I am under no illusion that my opinion will be influential enough to become mainstream.

      Humanity in...

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      HistoPol (#HP) 🏴 🇺🇸 🏴 (histopol@mastodon.social)'s status on Saturday, 13-Apr-2024 17:14:05 JST HistoPol (#HP) 🏴 🇺🇸  🏴 HistoPol (#HP) 🏴 🇺🇸 🏴
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      #ArtificialWombs #Ethics #Biotechnology #ReproductiveTechnology

      ...the field of science is like #Goethe's #SorcerersApprentice. 6) Anything must be tested:

      "That old sorcerer has vanished
      And for once has gone away! Spirits called by him, now banished,
      My commands shall soon obey..."

      #Oppenheimer and the atomic bomb showed the way.
      Only in contrast to the poem, there will be no sorcerer to save humanity from its hubris.

      6)
      https://sorcerers-apprentice.fandom.com/wiki/The_Sorcerer%27s_Apprentice_(poem)

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      HistoPol (#HP) 🏴 🇺🇸 🏴 (histopol@mastodon.social)'s status on Saturday, 13-Apr-2024 17:16:28 JST HistoPol (#HP) 🏴 🇺🇸  🏴 HistoPol (#HP) 🏴 🇺🇸 🏴
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      • Coach Pāṇini ®

      @paninid

      Oh, yes, absolutely! I remember that diagram.

      Only that it should be 3D!
      The intersections of the stories follow an exponentially adverse development path.

      @jnye

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      HistoPol (#HP) 🏴 🇺🇸 🏴 (histopol@mastodon.social)'s status on Saturday, 13-Apr-2024 17:16:55 JST HistoPol (#HP) 🏴 🇺🇸  🏴 HistoPol (#HP) 🏴 🇺🇸 🏴
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      • Coach Pāṇini ®

      @paninid

      Oh, yes, absolutely! I remember that diagram.

      Only that it should be 3D!
      The intersections of the stories follow an exponentially adverse development path.

      https://mastodon.world/@paninid/112261597501941973

      @jnye

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      HistoPol (#HP) 🏴 🇺🇸 🏴 (histopol@mastodon.social)'s status on Sunday, 14-Apr-2024 16:04:25 JST HistoPol (#HP) 🏴 🇺🇸  🏴 HistoPol (#HP) 🏴 🇺🇸 🏴
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      @jnye

      I am very sorry to hear about your personal loss. I've experienced similar, but even so, I'm saying this.
      This #ArtificialWomb has the potential to be a human-destiny changing technology, but from a population perspective, not in a good sense. This is why it should be left alone.
      Oh, and no, you are not being paranoid at all: this tech is a cleat and present danger even in politically more moderate circumstances.
      With a potential fascist takeover in the US in 2025, it becomes dangerous.

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      Author in Mourning (jnye@mstdn.plus)'s status on Sunday, 14-Apr-2024 16:04:26 JST Author in Mourning Author in Mourning
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      @HistoPol
      Mostly I agree, even as a person who lost a daughter at 26wks--long time ago, but could she have been saved this way? I don't know. SHOULD she have been saved if this tech had been available then? It's impossible to answer that from my point of view, but the overarching one? Probably not.

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