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   Beatlesandworms (beatlesandworms@mstdn.social)'s status on Tuesday, 09-Apr-2024 15:20:50 JST Beatlesandworms

   • Sabrina✨

   @ryanhoulihan ugh, I hope not. Are you serious??

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     Luka Rubinjoni (rubinjoni@mastodon.social)'s status on Tuesday, 09-Apr-2024 15:21:28 JST Luka Rubinjoni

     • Sabrina✨

     @ryanhoulihan It's a thing ever since being sent off to a monastery fell out of public favor.

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     Blippy the Wonder Slug 🇩🇪 (blippythewonderslug@ieji.de)'s status on Tuesday, 09-Apr-2024 15:23:57 JST Blippy the Wonder Slug 🇩🇪

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     • Tane Piper ⁂
     • Sabrina✨

     @tanepiper
     This.

     My first thought, as well, was "these folks are in England. "

     @ryanhoulihan

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     Tane Piper ⁂ (tanepiper@tane.codes)'s status on Tuesday, 09-Apr-2024 15:23:59 JST Tane Piper ⁂

     • Sabrina✨

     @ryanhoulihan You've just described the entire British class system in one.

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     Mathew (berkough@mastodon.social)'s status on Tuesday, 09-Apr-2024 15:25:27 JST Mathew

     • Sabrina✨

     @ryanhoulihan I guess it depends on what the institution was. Are we talking like "rehab" or a religious retreat or something??

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     Mathew (berkough@mastodon.social)'s status on Tuesday, 09-Apr-2024 15:28:21 JST Mathew

     • Sabrina✨

     @ryanhoulihan That's interesting. Does your boyfriend know the names of any of these places? Might be worth reading into. I'm sure there is information online about these places.

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     neatchee (neatchee@urusai.social)'s status on Tuesday, 09-Apr-2024 15:28:24 JST neatchee

     • Sabrina✨

     @ryanhoulihan I've only ever forced someone into a medical facility when I believed they were: a) a danger to themselves, b) behaving inconsistently with what I considered their normal mental state, and c) I could not care for them by myself.

     If you're my friend and you're experiencing an acute depressive or manic episode, I'd rather you be angry and alive than free and dead :AquaShrug:

     For context, I support assisted suicide for those with things like chronic conditions that cannot be treated, or those with irreconcilably low quality of life (terminal illness, unable to care for themselves, etc)

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     Mathew (berkough@mastodon.social)'s status on Tuesday, 09-Apr-2024 15:30:04 JST Mathew

     • Sabrina✨

     @ryanhoulihan 🤣 if they're expensive, there's probably a fancy website somewhere, a mission statement or an about us page or something.

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     Ben Rush (continuity0@mastodon.social)'s status on Tuesday, 09-Apr-2024 15:31:16 JST Ben Rush

     • Sabrina✨

     @ryanhoulihan I've been out of that social sphere and world for some time, but as of the ‘90s and early aughts, absolutely it was still a thing. If it can embarrass the family, it can, and will, absolutely be suppressed. Institutionalization is an extreme, but never not a possibility. The extremely wealthy will, at all cost, defend their image of deservedness, nothing is ever their fault but profits always are always owed to them.

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     neatchee (neatchee@urusai.social)'s status on Tuesday, 09-Apr-2024 15:36:09 JST neatchee

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     • Sabrina✨

     @ryanhoulihan And in all three cases I did my best to help them myself first; only resorted to managed care when it became obvious it was way out of my league.

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     neatchee (neatchee@urusai.social)'s status on Tuesday, 09-Apr-2024 15:36:10 JST neatchee

     • Sabrina✨

     @ryanhoulihan Yeah, fuck that.

     Like, in both of the cases where I've forced someone to go into a managed-care environment, they were at imminent risk. In one case they were bashing their head against a metal door after deteriorating over the course of 48 hours. In the other case, they had intentionally cut up the soles of their feet in a drunken, misguided effort to hide a relapse into alcoholism and self-harm.

     In a third case, I was able to convince the person to check themselves in, after they told me they had tried to drown themselves in the bath and failed.

     "Being trans and depressed/bipolar" ain't that :\

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     Annie Fink-Nottle (abandofan@mastodon.social)'s status on Tuesday, 09-Apr-2024 17:03:40 JST Annie Fink-Nottle

     • Sabrina✨

     @ryanhoulihan You mean like Rosemary Kennedy?

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     Sean C. (filmfreak75@mastodon.social)'s status on Tuesday, 09-Apr-2024 22:05:12 JST Sean C.

     • Sabrina✨

     @ryanhoulihan the phrase “institutionalized against their will” is very broad and would need better definition.

     most states there is a process to do
     something like that and it’s not an easy burden anymore.

     that said, rich people be weird.