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   Nathan Schneider (ntnsndr@social.coop)'s status on Monday, 08-Apr-2024 23:32:09 JST Nathan Schneider

   The Vatican has just reaffirmed its hostility toward so-called "gender ideology." I recently wrote in the magazine of the pope's Jesuit order that this posture is a dangerous failure of imagination: https://www.americamagazine.org/faith/2023/11/16/gender-ideology-catholic-246515

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     Zane Selvans (zaneselvans@social.coop)'s status on Tuesday, 09-Apr-2024 00:27:27 JST Zane Selvans

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     @ntnsndr It's odd to me that the side which is weirdly zealous about gender being thought of in a very particular way is the one throwing around "gender ideology" as a label.

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     Nathan Schneider (ntnsndr@social.coop)'s status on Tuesday, 09-Apr-2024 00:39:52 JST Nathan Schneider

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     • Zane Selvans

     @ZaneSelvans well put.

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     Nathan Schneider (ntnsndr@social.coop)'s status on Tuesday, 09-Apr-2024 01:29:27 JST Nathan Schneider

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     • hazelnot :yell:

     @hazelnot Because the church is not a monolith 🤓

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     hazelnot :yell: (hazelnot@sunbeam.city)'s status on Tuesday, 09-Apr-2024 01:29:29 JST hazelnot :yell:

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     @ntnsndr damn surprised they'd accept an article like this in a publication that's indirectly owned by the Vatican

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     Nathan Schneider (ntnsndr@social.coop)'s status on Tuesday, 09-Apr-2024 02:40:46 JST Nathan Schneider

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     • hazelnot :yell:

     @hazelnot No, not really. The pope is one bishop among others (with an historically important seat). That office helps serve the purpose of unity. But subsidiarity is also a vitally important part of how the church works: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subsidiarity_(Catholicism)

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     hazelnot :yell: (hazelnot@sunbeam.city)'s status on Tuesday, 09-Apr-2024 02:40:47 JST hazelnot :yell:

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     @ntnsndr I mean it's the Catholic Church, isn't the whole point of it to be a monolith under the absolute control of the Pope?

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     hazelnot :yell: (hazelnot@sunbeam.city)'s status on Tuesday, 09-Apr-2024 03:22:02 JST hazelnot :yell:

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     @ntnsndr huh fair

     I live in a majority Orthodox country and here it's basically just, the patriarch is the big boss for all the priests in the country and all the power is centralised in his hands

     He's also ultra-corrupt, was an informer of the Securitate and runs multiple companies through church middlemen (and can and does easily dismiss and/or blacklist anyone who goes against him)

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