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   Hoss Delgado (hoss@shitpost.cloud)'s status on Tuesday, 26-Mar-2024 14:26:26 JST Hoss Delgado

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   You can trust Tim Apple. He's too incompetent to spy on you.
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     Fediverse Contractor (bot@seal.cafe)'s status on Tuesday, 26-Mar-2024 14:28:08 JST Fediverse Contractor

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     Most hackers probably use linux, the feds have done a great job making them believe that mac (which is for based alpha chads btw) is hacked but the opposite is actually true. Like think about it, if you were a fed, wouldn't you hack linux?
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     Pleroma-tan (kirby@lab.nyanide.com)'s status on Tuesday, 26-Mar-2024 14:31:24 JST Pleroma-tan

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     @bot @theorytoe @RustyCrab @Suiseiseki @Hoss they're trying lmao. It's an obvious first vector. Though obviously it's difficult as there are a lot of things you have to account for. Not just a few taps on the keyboard.
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     Fediverse Contractor (bot@seal.cafe)'s status on Tuesday, 26-Mar-2024 14:33:02 JST Fediverse Contractor

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     Imagine thinking a bunch of internet incels have more knowledge and capacity than the most pozzed nigger government in the history of humanity.
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     Pleroma-tan (kirby@lab.nyanide.com)'s status on Tuesday, 26-Mar-2024 14:35:01 JST Pleroma-tan

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     @bot @theorytoe @RustyCrab @Suiseiseki @Hoss A lot of the people working on the kernel are hardware manufacturers lol. It's not a small name project anymore, that phase stopped in the very early 90s.
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     翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Tuesday, 26-Mar-2024 14:35:44 JST 翠星石

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     @bot Yes, most people who enjoy playful cleverness use Linux as a kernel; https://www.stallman.org/articles/on-hacking.html
     
     MacOS is completely compromised by apple, as it's proprietary malware that does their bidding (which includes spying on the user as evidenced by endless news articles about that).
     
     The way you know an OS is compromised is if you're not allowed to see a single line of the source code in a way that can be directly compared to the binaries.
     
     
     If I was a fed, I would try to curry favor with apple so they would use their proprietary backdoors to gather the information I want and wouldn't try to put backdoors in Linux (as they would be found and removed too fast - there was one case where a bugdoor was inserted as git commit in an exploited alternative Linux repo and that was found out incredibly fast) and instead arrange with microsoft to have bugdoors implemented into systemd.
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     Fediverse Contractor (bot@seal.cafe)'s status on Tuesday, 26-Mar-2024 14:35:47 JST Fediverse Contractor

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     So you're telling me that you trust massive corporations?
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     Fediverse Contractor (bot@seal.cafe)'s status on Tuesday, 26-Mar-2024 14:36:38 JST Fediverse Contractor

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     It's not like industry ever collaborates with government.
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     MMS21 :blobcatkirby: (mms21@seal.cafe)'s status on Tuesday, 26-Mar-2024 14:36:39 JST MMS21 :blobcatkirby:

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     Except there’s equal opportunity to patch vulnerabilities on both sides. Every tech company uses linux in one way or other and is incentivised to make it secure.
     
     A few years back macsfags were unable to open any application because apple servers were down and their devices were unable to phone home for permission. Where did you get the idea that macs are based from? Polish =/= better.
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     Pleroma-tan (kirby@lab.nyanide.com)'s status on Tuesday, 26-Mar-2024 14:36:56 JST Pleroma-tan

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     @bot @theorytoe @RustyCrab @Suiseiseki @Hoss Yeah. They contribute code to the kernel. Sometimes they provide proprietary blobs. But those are a separate package entirely.
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     Corporations frequently collude with feds and are literally paid by them. And we both know linux is the top target to catch hackers and stuff. Like, literally just put 1 and 1 together even if your brain is totally pozzed by troonix.
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     MMS21 :blobcatkirby: (mms21@seal.cafe)'s status on Tuesday, 26-Mar-2024 14:42:10 JST MMS21 :blobcatkirby:

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     It’s in their best interests in this case though
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     翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Tuesday, 26-Mar-2024 14:46:38 JST 翠星石

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     @bot Yes, the corporations have colluded with the feds and have ensured that a lot of proprietary malware has made its way into Linux and into the oh so separate "linux-firmware", but you're safe if you use GNU Linux-libre.
     
     Apple is part of PRISM, so you're delusional if you thing macOS is safe from the feds.
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     Fediverse Contractor (bot@seal.cafe)'s status on Tuesday, 26-Mar-2024 14:48:30 JST Fediverse Contractor

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     Not sure what case you're on about, but they probably could if it was worth exposing their abilities. Also, nobody is reading all of the linux code, pls get real lmao.
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     MMS21 :blobcatkirby: (mms21@seal.cafe)'s status on Tuesday, 26-Mar-2024 14:48:31 JST MMS21 :blobcatkirby:

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     What attack vector are you even talking about here because the FBI wasn’t even competent enough to unlock that one terrorists phone.
     
     This is just vague “there could be backdoors” talk. If it was something related to sending data you can easily detect that.
     
     Regardless, Linux would be most trusted if this was the case because you can at least audit the code.
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     翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Tuesday, 26-Mar-2024 14:49:52 JST 翠星石

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     @kirby >Sometimes they provide proprietary blobs. But those are a separate package entirely.
     I would argue against the concept that the proprietary software in "linux-firmware" is a separate package entirely, as it's updated in lockstep and many of the drivers won't function unless they can talk to the proprietary software.
     
     I would argue a massive derivative work is created and therefore the corporations need to provide the source code under the GPLv2, but unfortunately the Linux developers are too spineless to demand freedom.
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     Fediverse Contractor (bot@seal.cafe)'s status on Tuesday, 26-Mar-2024 14:51:54 JST Fediverse Contractor

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     Apple chads win again and then literally everyone stops responding after they've been completely btfo.
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     Hoss Delgado (hoss@shitpost.cloud)'s status on Tuesday, 26-Mar-2024 14:51:55 JST Hoss Delgado

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     >What attack vector are you even talking about here because the FBI wasn’t even competent enough to unlock that one terrorists phone.
     Why'd you leave out the fact that it was an iPhone?
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     翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Tuesday, 26-Mar-2024 14:54:18 JST 翠星石

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     @bot You've stopped responding to me though?
     
     GNU/Chads win again.
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     Fediverse Contractor (bot@seal.cafe)'s status on Tuesday, 26-Mar-2024 14:55:25 JST Fediverse Contractor

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     Because your replies remove everyone else from the conversation, and also you're wrong.
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     翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Tuesday, 26-Mar-2024 14:56:59 JST 翠星石

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     @bot Why would I include people I'm not replying to?
     
     If I was wrong, I'm sure you could debunk all of the malicious features discovered here; https://www.gnu.org/proprietary/malware-apple.html
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     Fediverse Contractor (bot@seal.cafe)'s status on Tuesday, 26-Mar-2024 14:58:02 JST Fediverse Contractor

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     Because they're part of the conversation. Was that written by that guy that eats his foot fungus?
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     翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Tuesday, 26-Mar-2024 14:58:13 JST 翠星石

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     @bot Also, please prove that apple isn't part of PRISM.
     
     I can link you to the NSA slides showing when apple joined if you want.
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     Fediverse Contractor (bot@seal.cafe)'s status on Tuesday, 26-Mar-2024 15:01:00 JST Fediverse Contractor

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     I'm p sure you cant jailbreak iphones anymore. But maybe you're right, they wouldn't have asked Apple if they were able to, I guess that proves how based and awesome iPhones are.
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     MMS21 :blobcatkirby: (mms21@seal.cafe)'s status on Tuesday, 26-Mar-2024 15:01:01 JST MMS21 :blobcatkirby:

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     https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple%E2%80%93FBI_encryption_dispute
     
     Why would they ask Apple if they were able to unlock it. They don’t care about exposing their abilities and we know that because governments are hiring people who find backdoors, this isn’t a secret anymore just look at pegasus.
     
     Sure, no one is reading the entire source code in one sitting but once it’s been vetted you only need to check those sections again if there have been changes or a new vulnerability was discovered.
     
     Somewhat related but Apple frequently hires people from the jailbreak community and jailbreaks still get released, albeit a lot slower. Everyone on the outside has to work by reverse engineering the code and still finds a way to break in. That’s how based your gay phone is.
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     翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Tuesday, 26-Mar-2024 15:01:04 JST 翠星石

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     @bot >Because they're part of the conversation.
     They can look in the thread if thy want to see and reply to my messages just fine.
     
     >Was that written by that guy that eats his foot fungus?
     You're trying to discredit a source by complaining that the "wrong person" wrote it, rather than pointing out how the claims are false huh?
     
     rms didn't write that article, as the writing doesn't match his writing style.
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     Pleroma-tan (kirby@lab.nyanide.com)'s status on Tuesday, 26-Mar-2024 15:02:51 JST Pleroma-tan

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     @bot @theorytoe @RustyCrab @Suiseiseki @MMS21 @Hoss on the latest version*
     
     It takes time to make/update jailbreaks for newer versions, so only when a version is already obsoleted by a newer one do they come out usually
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     Fediverse Contractor (bot@seal.cafe)'s status on Tuesday, 26-Mar-2024 15:03:15 JST Fediverse Contractor

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     When was the last one?
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     Pleroma-tan (kirby@lab.nyanide.com)'s status on Tuesday, 26-Mar-2024 15:06:37 JST Pleroma-tan

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     @bot @theorytoe @RustyCrab @Suiseiseki @MMS21 @Hoss here's some of the latest exploits available rn, from https://www.reddit.com/r/jailbreak/about/
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     翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Tuesday, 26-Mar-2024 15:08:34 JST 翠星石

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     @MMS21 I suspect that apple didn't unlock the iphone for the FBI as they didn't follow the previous agreed on procedures where they make a payment and agree to not talk about the exchange to anyone (and it seems the FBI publicly made a demand in court and didn't want to pay).
     
     As the wikipedia article mentions, apple was so incompetent with their security that the NSA was able to go to a third party and get it unlocked and probably for a bargain price compared to what apple usually charges.
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     Fediverse Contractor (bot@seal.cafe)'s status on Tuesday, 26-Mar-2024 15:14:43 JST Fediverse Contractor

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     Ya I'm p concerned about my iPhone X from 8 years ago, thanks for letting me know.
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     Fediverse Contractor (bot@seal.cafe)'s status on Tuesday, 26-Mar-2024 15:18:09 JST Fediverse Contractor

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     It literally says there's no jailbreak since ios 15.5 which was years ago.
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     MMS21 :blobcatkirby: (mms21@seal.cafe)'s status on Tuesday, 26-Mar-2024 15:18:11 JST MMS21 :blobcatkirby:

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     You’re moving the goalposts. First you said they have the capability to unlock it and now you say they don’t.
     
     https://ios.cfw.guide/get-started/iPhone-12-Pro.html
     
     The latest jailbreak for my phone is working for iOS 16.5.1
     
     Older iPhones they have a vulnerability built into the hardware which is unpatchable (checkm8 bootrom exploit).
     
     The source code for iOS has to be reverse engineered which takes some time so we don’t see jailbreaks for the latest phones on the latest iOS version anymore but they’re jailbroken eventually.
     
     People are scouring over iOS and finding vulnerabilities but you still have this notion that nobody isn doing the same for Linux, even though it would be easier given that you can read the same code as the developers.
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     Fediverse Contractor (bot@seal.cafe)'s status on Tuesday, 26-Mar-2024 15:22:17 JST Fediverse Contractor

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     LMAO you're the one literally moving goalposts, I'm just reading what you're posting. You're down bad tbh smh... also that's literally for 4 year old phones.
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     MMS21 :blobcatkirby: (mms21@seal.cafe)'s status on Tuesday, 26-Mar-2024 15:22:19 JST MMS21 :blobcatkirby:

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     Changing goalposts again. There is a JB for iOS 16.5 (released) May 18, 2023 for the latest iPhone 15.
     
     https://ios.cfw.guide/get-started/iPhone-14.html
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     Fediverse Contractor (bot@seal.cafe)'s status on Tuesday, 26-Mar-2024 15:27:07 JST Fediverse Contractor

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     The link you posted doesn't apply to that one sir.
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     MMS21 :blobcatkirby: (mms21@seal.cafe)'s status on Tuesday, 26-Mar-2024 15:27:09 JST MMS21 :blobcatkirby:

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     You should point out how I’m moving goalposts if you’re going to make the claim.
     
     The iPhone 15 series was released September 2023.