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   Hailey (hailey@hails.org)'s status on Sunday, 24-Mar-2024 23:03:58 JST Hailey

   what on earth is going on over at C++

   are they ok

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     Hailey (hailey@hails.org)'s status on Sunday, 24-Mar-2024 23:08:21 JST Hailey

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     from https://isocpp.org/files/papers/P2809R3.html where the C++ committee has just adopted a proposal to make some infinite loops not UB

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     Doughnut Lollipop 【記録係】:blobfoxgooglymlem: (tk@bbs.kawa-kun.com)'s status on Sunday, 24-Mar-2024 23:08:21 JST Doughnut Lollipop 【記録係】:blobfoxgooglymlem:

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     @hailey This just makes me want to stick with C. :blobfoxgoogly:
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     djsumdog (djsumdog@djsumdog.com)'s status on Tuesday, 26-Mar-2024 23:06:22 JST djsumdog

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     • JordiGH
     • PerryPeak

     ah yes, that did it:

     ❯ clang++ main.cpp -O -o main cassius in 🌐 ellie in /tmp ❯ ./main Hello world!

     of course it would be an optimization flag :blobcatfacepalm:

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     PerryPeak (perrypeak@noc.social)'s status on Tuesday, 26-Mar-2024 23:06:24 JST PerryPeak

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     • djsumdog
     • JordiGH

     @djsumdog @JordiGH looks like you have to use -O

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     djsumdog (djsumdog@djsumdog.com)'s status on Tuesday, 26-Mar-2024 23:06:26 JST djsumdog

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     • JordiGH
     Sorry I meant it loops as expected with clang 16 (no output; have to ctrl+c to exit). Looks like my machine upgraded to clan 17.0.6 over the weekend ... and it does the same thing. So I guess this "optimization" started in clang 18?
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     JordiGH (jordigh@mathstodon.xyz)'s status on Tuesday, 26-Mar-2024 23:06:27 JST JordiGH

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     • djsumdog

     @djsumdog Why the heck are you expecting this to terminate?

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     djsumdog (djsumdog@djsumdog.com)'s status on Tuesday, 26-Mar-2024 23:06:28 JST djsumdog

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     What is a "recent version?" This terminates as expected for me in clang 16.0.6 / x86_64-pc-linux-gnu
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     Simon Harris (haruki_zaemon@social.harukizaemon.com)'s status on Monday, 01-Apr-2024 19:15:16 JST Simon Harris

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     @hailey exchanging one UB (unbounded) for another (unexpected behaviour).

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     hot metal oxide (cda@malt.social)'s status on Monday, 01-Apr-2024 19:19:41 JST hot metal oxide

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     @hailey they are, in fact, not ok.