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   [hゥmァnォィd]:doge_a::verified: (irie@bae.st)'s status on Monday, 18-Mar-2024 23:19:23 JST [hゥmァnォィd]:doge_a::verified:
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     Alex Gleason (alex@gleasonator.com)'s status on Monday, 18-Mar-2024 23:19:22 JST Alex Gleason

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     @irie Like every article that has ever been created with this exact headline, if you read it, it says "although all of the nutrients CAN be found in plants..."
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     Alex Gleason (alex@gleasonator.com)'s status on Monday, 18-Mar-2024 23:20:20 JST Alex Gleason

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     @irie Maybe it's hard to find those nutrients because the only restaurant for 5 miles is Arby's
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     Alex Gleason (alex@gleasonator.com)'s status on Monday, 18-Mar-2024 23:55:50 JST Alex Gleason

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     @mactonite @irie I'm not going to re-read all those C-words again, but the last 5 times I looked it up, they were either found in plants, not actually essential, or your brain naturally produces enough of it you don't need an external source. Anyway I hate people who can't code assuming I must be retarded because I don't eat meat.
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     :not_the_confederate_flag: :senko_dance: Otso :senko_dance: :verified: (mactonite@bae.st)'s status on Monday, 18-Mar-2024 23:55:51 JST :not_the_confederate_flag: :senko_dance: Otso :senko_dance: :verified:

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     @alex @irie plants don't have any
     vitamins: a, b6 (pyridoxal, pyridoxamine), b12, d3, k2
     amino acids: creatine, carnitine, carnosine, taurine (considered unessential by the soy industry but essential for childhood brain development)
     heme iron, coq10, cla
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     Nicholas Conrad (nicholas@aklp.club)'s status on Tuesday, 19-Mar-2024 00:22:51 JST Nicholas Conrad

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     2/3rds of published, peer reviewed, scientific studies fail rreplication. That means whenever you read a headline about some new "scientific" discovery (outside of the hard sciences, which have a much better hit-rate, at least for now) it is twice as likely to be false as it is to be true. Our institutions of learning and knowledge production are in shambles. #replocationcrisis #epistemicimpoverishment

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     Alex Gleason (alex@gleasonator.com)'s status on Tuesday, 19-Mar-2024 00:24:03 JST Alex Gleason

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     @mactonite @irie I have to use my big vegan brain to write code, can't argue online
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     :not_the_confederate_flag: :senko_dance: Otso :senko_dance: :verified: (mactonite@bae.st)'s status on Tuesday, 19-Mar-2024 00:24:04 JST :not_the_confederate_flag: :senko_dance: Otso :senko_dance: :verified:

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     @alex @irie i made a point specifically to address your concern which i assumed you would have. you totally skipped over everything else too, it's objectively wrong to state any of those listed are found in plants.
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     Alex Gleason (alex@gleasonator.com)'s status on Tuesday, 19-Mar-2024 00:35:44 JST Alex Gleason

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     @mactonite @irie Listen buddy. You are I assume 17 years old. I don't have time for this. Here is an AI generated response.
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     :not_the_confederate_flag: :senko_dance: Otso :senko_dance: :verified: (mactonite@bae.st)'s status on Tuesday, 19-Mar-2024 00:35:45 JST :not_the_confederate_flag: :senko_dance: Otso :senko_dance: :verified:

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     @alex @irie you keep saying you're vegan like it's your whole personality. you're enslaved by a cult and aren't allowed to do what you want.
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     mittimithai (mittimithai@neenster.org)'s status on Tuesday, 19-Mar-2024 01:37:56 JST mittimithai

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     It is found in animals, but not in parts that most people eat.
     What do you see on this bag of baby carrots?
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     :not_the_confederate_flag: :senko_dance: Otso :senko_dance: :verified: (mactonite@bae.st)'s status on Tuesday, 19-Mar-2024 01:37:57 JST :not_the_confederate_flag: :senko_dance: Otso :senko_dance: :verified:

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     @mittimithai @irie @alex vitamins are organic substances. vitamin a is found in animal based foods, not in any plant or fungi.
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     mittimithai (mittimithai@neenster.org)'s status on Tuesday, 19-Mar-2024 01:37:58 JST mittimithai

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     Where do you think the vitamin A in you comes from?
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     mittimithai (mittimithai@neenster.org)'s status on Tuesday, 19-Mar-2024 01:37:59 JST mittimithai

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     You don't really know what any of those things are, do you?
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     @mittimithai @irie @alex useless post you didn't say anything
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     feld (feld@bikeshed.party)'s status on Tuesday, 19-Mar-2024 01:38:35 JST feld

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     @alex @mactonite @irie Half a billion vegans in India and nobody seems to be dying of veganism-related malnutrition 🤷
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     mittimithai (mittimithai@neenster.org)'s status on Tuesday, 19-Mar-2024 03:54:52 JST mittimithai

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     I don't think you understand much science or have ever looked into VAD research. What I say won't be much help to you.
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     @mittimithai @irie @alex a clear cause and effect is not a good explanation but paper in wallets affects nutrients in blood? what?
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     mittimithai (mittimithai@neenster.org)'s status on Tuesday, 19-Mar-2024 03:54:54 JST mittimithai

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     No, they were administering beta carotene and looking at conversion rates. They saw an association of those SNPs with a lower conversion rate (not "no conversion"). The SNPs provide a plausible explanation of lower conversion rates (though there are many other plausible explanations).
     
     What this has to do with vitamin A actual deficiency (VAD, which is very very low in developed countries like the UK) isn't clear. There is no indication that those with the SNPs were VAD.
     
     They suggest that people with those common SNPs may benefit by increased pre formed vitamin A intake in countries where VAD is common. They may, they may not. VAD is a very complex problem that is tied to the host of generally poor living conditions in poor countries.
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     :not_the_confederate_flag: :senko_dance: Otso :senko_dance: :verified: (mactonite@bae.st)'s status on Tuesday, 19-Mar-2024 03:54:55 JST :not_the_confederate_flag: :senko_dance: Otso :senko_dance: :verified:

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     @mittimithai @irie @alex so they found beta carotene in their bloodstream instead of vitamin a. that means no conversion took place.
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     mittimithai (mittimithai@neenster.org)'s status on Tuesday, 19-Mar-2024 03:54:56 JST mittimithai

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     It doesn't show that at all. Read the last paras in the conclusion:
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     mittimithai (mittimithai@neenster.org)'s status on Tuesday, 19-Mar-2024 03:54:57 JST mittimithai

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     What is your claim about vitamin A (precursors) from plants then?
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     • mittimithai
     @mittimithai @irie @alex the study i linked show there is no conversion for individuals on a genetic basis. they must eat animal foods. retinol supplements are toxic.
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     @mittimithai @irie @alex according to their estimated levels of blood vitamin a which is set too low as synthetic vitamin a supplements (often marketed to vegans) are toxic. the study on vitamin a toxicity was done on retinol supplements, not food. this has nothing to do with true deficiency which is a state of need, nothing to do with quotas.
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     mittimithai (mittimithai@neenster.org)'s status on Tuesday, 19-Mar-2024 03:54:59 JST mittimithai

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     "Almost half of UK women could be suffering from a lack of vitamin A"
     
     "Could be", but are they? What is the current estimate of vitamin A deficiency in the UK?
     
     "Vitamin A deficiency is extremely rare in people born in the UK"
     https://www.gov.uk/guidance/vitamin-a-deficiency-migrant-health-guide
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     :not_the_confederate_flag: :senko_dance: Otso :senko_dance: :verified: (mactonite@bae.st)'s status on Tuesday, 19-Mar-2024 03:55:00 JST :not_the_confederate_flag: :senko_dance: Otso :senko_dance: :verified:

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     @mittimithai @irie @alex https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/11/091118072051.htm
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     mittimithai (mittimithai@neenster.org)'s status on Tuesday, 19-Mar-2024 03:55:01 JST mittimithai

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     "genetic variations". cool beans! tell me more
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     @mittimithai @irie @alex the supplement industry is unregulated so vegan corporations can sell cyanide to you gullible retards and call it b12. no, carrots have no vitamin a. that's false advertisement. there are genetic variations in beta carotene metabolism meaning a vegan diet is genocide against those who cannot convert it.