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   「セル」cell (سل) (cell@pl.ebin.zone)'s status on Monday, 18-Mar-2024 00:26:25 JST 「セル」cell (سل)
   so uh, what's the language field in mastodon and akkoma for :acat_blink:
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     Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell: (lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me)'s status on Monday, 18-Mar-2024 00:27:15 JST Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell:

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     @cell Best is if it doesn't changes anything for hanzi/kanji, it probably also doesn't works for text-to-speech.
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     Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell: (lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me)'s status on Monday, 18-Mar-2024 00:34:24 JST Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell:

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     @cell Maybe the mastodon language filtering thing but I find that thing to be a complete misfeature in the way it's implemented as it entirely hides posts in unselected languages rather than soft-mutes.
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     「セル」cell (سل) (cell@pl.ebin.zone)'s status on Monday, 18-Mar-2024 00:34:25 JST 「セル」cell (سل)

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     • Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell:
     @lanodan well there must be some written reason for the field right, can't be just one day someone decided to just add the thing one day :acat_hysteria:
     there's always some fun edge cases, such as the following lang="id" text:
     تيس ساتو دوا تيݢا
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     「セル」cell (سل) (cell@pl.ebin.zone)'s status on Monday, 18-Mar-2024 00:39:23 JST 「セル」cell (سل)

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     • Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell:
     @lanodan oh? interesting if a bit fucked up tbh, what if someone decides to mix languages in one post?
     
     and yes, it's quite a nonstandard application of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jawi_script pioneered on fedi :neofox_3c:
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     Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell: (lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me)'s status on Monday, 18-Mar-2024 00:39:23 JST Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell:

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     @cell No idea how mixing works, probably should select undefined (which is what pleroma ended up having to add because of said Mastodon misfeature not even having fallbacks).
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     Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell: (lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me)'s status on Monday, 18-Mar-2024 06:34:19 JST Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell:

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     • Tirifto
     @tirifto @cell I think the only one that handled it nicely was Friendica (I think with a plugin) where it could collapse a post similarly to CWs and word-muting and tell you which languages (and percentages because it was guessed).
     
     Meanwhile afaik the way mastodon does it is hard-filtering based on a user-provided list of (few) languages.
     
     Otherwise you end up entirely hiding other languages with never being aware of it. And at least for me there's a lot of languages where I can guess or read a short post, possibly with a dictionary as help for few words.
     Perception of the mastodon design likely being skewed for me by knowing bits of Breton, one of those languages that nearly died as it got forbidden in schools, I feel like it would just reinforce majority languages.
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     Tirifto (tirifto@jam.xwx.moe)'s status on Monday, 18-Mar-2024 06:34:23 JST Tirifto

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     • Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell:

     @lanodan @cell Language tagging and filtering really should be more of a given for a universal social network. There are people from all over the world on the Fediverse, posting in all sorts of languages, so it makes perfect sense to have some way of handling different languages differently.

     Since I’ve personally never used Mastodon, I’m not familiar with their particular way of handling it, but it’s perplexing how long they’ve gone without having a similar feature, and even more so how Pleroma now seems to be falling behind in this regard. :gutkato_flucerba: