Embed this noticeChristi Junior (christijunior@detroitriotcity.com)'s status on Wednesday, 13-Mar-2024 04:42:02 JST
Christi JuniorKinda amazed that the #1 Leftist talking point against Trump is how he supposedly "Threatens Democracy" - niggers, you're the scumbags who completely gave up on Persuading people to vote for you, and instead went all in on Replacing them. Every single election "won" by the Democrats that they would have lost with the 1965 racial demographics is a Stolen election. The people is supposed to be able to Change their leaders, the leaders aren't supposed to be able to Change their people. Mass nonwhite immigration to White countries killed democracy.
OF COURSE political discourse grows ever nastier, more aggressive and more hateful as the country becomes more "Diverse" - don't you retards remember what happened to Yugoslavia once it made the transition from dictatorship to democracy? In a multiracial country, a cold civil war is continuously being waged, and elections are some of the biggest Battles taking place. OF COURSE we should not accept or respect fraudulent election results that threaten our lives and safety.
You're damn right I'd be okay with Trump appointing himself dictator, arresting the political opposition and drone striking journofags. When our very survival is threatened, as is always the case for White people when we're the minority (see Haiti, Rhodesia, South Africa) you think I give a shit about your "democracy" or your "rule of law"? You're already openly claiming White people can't be discriminated against, soon enough you'll be saying that White people can't be raped or murdered, because Privilege. Fuck your Democracy, I want a new Hitler, and a second Holocaust!
@rlier23@ChristiJunior It's not that the IDEA doesn't work, it's that it's not implemented. Appealing to muh constitution is flawed because believing in it constrains the person believing in it but not the people who don't. It's like any honor code in this respect.
@ChristiJunior the american constitution has become nothing more than a useless piece of paper by now and that's thanks to leftoids(and jews) always bending if not outright ignoring whatever laws they want.
only whites seem to be so attached to an idea that no longer works, either out of loyalty or because they are completely defanged
I mean, using this line of reasoning, pro-White ideas themselves don't work precisely because most Whites in America today aren't pro-White. If an idea requires buy-in to hold merit then our ideas don't, since a lot of them are decidedly unpopular.
@NEETzsche@rlier23 The clear majority of White people support Trump, despite being told for 8 straight years that he's Literally Hitler by the media and all sorts of authority figures. Sure, most Trump people view those claims as nothing but slander, but the fact that most White people now can no longer be controlled by the "Racist!" smear represents some major movement towards pro-White ideas, aka Taking Your Own Side.
Importantly, most Trump voters explicitly try to appeal to blacks, insist they aren't racist, and argue from things like the Constitution, which just got disparaged as ineffectual and valueless because the left (jews, white shitlibs, etc) don't buy into it and try to subvert it. Pro-White racial identity politics have the same issue, that most people, not even most Trump voters, buy into them. It's still very much a no-no line that people aren't allowed to cross.
@NEETzsche@rlier23 Someone like Tucker Carlson is openly pushing the concept of "anti-White". Not "Democrats Are The Real Racists", not even "Anti-White Racism", just "Anti-White":
This is pretty significant progress and movement, happening in just a few years. White people are actually being told by some of the most influential conservatives that yes, they're a group, yes, they're under attack, and yes, it's okay to defend our own interests.
This is a good point, actually. Pro-White shit is gaining some momentum. It's still not something you can say out loud at work, but maybe soon. I hope to be proven wrong on this because I buy into pro-White thought.
Do not act condescending when you're the one being corrected. It's a bad look.
Anyway, in the CURRENT CONTEXT, pro-White thought doesn't work because other Whites will throw you to the wolves. Being a "wignat" is literally blackmail material even now, and that's in spite of guys like Tucker Carlson and Elon Musk coming out in favor of pro-White racial politics. You can't use your race as your uniform; it's just not that simple, because of how subverted the race itself is.
my man, i don't want to be mean but i am very explicitely saying that in a place where there are a lot of savages you cannot treat the savages with honor unless you have them on their fucking knees
@NEETzsche@rlier23 Back on Gab I once recommended a bunch of pro-White talking points/tactics for use on friendly Normies, gradually becoming stronger and stronger medicine. Rereading my list, a number of these tactics are becoming mainstream among conservatives:
- Show examples of clear, systemic anti-White discrimination in the West today, in the educational system, the labor market etc. White people, and especially White men, are the only people that it's okay to discriminate against based on something they can't help.
- Debunk the White Privilege propaganda by showing normies how Asians and Jews on average make more money than Whites. How come when Asians and Jews are more successful than White people, that's due to hard work and intelligence, but when White people are more successful than Blacks and Latinos, that's undeserved White Privilege?
- Present official, undisputed crime statistics showing that the White-on-Black crime that the media and #BlackLivesMatter keep shrieking about is relatively rare, and that Black-on-White crime is far more common. This is also a good gateway drug to a lot of other RedPilling crime stats.
- Keep exposing double standards, how White people keep being attacked for stuff that's not a problem whenever nonwhites do it, how legitimate concerns of White communities are dismissed out of hand, while ridiculous complaints of hypersensitive nonwhites are always taken seriously and even generate Moral Panics. And of course, show how "hate speech" against Whites is deemed 100% okay and can even get you a job at the New York Times, while White kids are having their lives ruined just for smiling when being harassed by aggressive nonwhites.
- Expose how the hateful anti-White propaganda is profoundly dishonest and unjustified: All successful peoples have war, genocide and slavery in their history, and White people have frequently been victims of both genocide and slavery (how come the Arab Slave Trade has been memory hole'd to such an extent?) Where White civilizations have differed is actually in having been more humane and civilized: For example, slavery has existed throughout human history, but it was White people who put an end to it throughout most of the world. Or look at how Germany harbors so much more guilt over their WW2 crimes than Japan does, despite Japan having been an exceptionally brutal colonial power and belligerent party in WW2.
- Highlight all the vicious anti-White hate being spewed by academia, the media, pop culture and Democrats. Stuff that makes it clear to White normies that these people hate them and their children just for being White, and want them dead. Bonus points if a lot of the anti-White scumbags have blatantly Jewish names or have their names in (((echoes))).
- Make it clear that the anti-White Hate will only get worse if White people don't push back, no possible concession will even put a brake on it: Anti-White hate has only intensified since Affirmative Action was implemented, since Obama was elected president, since mass immigration has been rapidly reducing the power and influence of White people in the US.
- Bring up the examples of Zimbabwe and South Africa to show how White people will be treated once they become the minority, and what systemic anti-White hate propaganda leads. Bonus points for showing anti-White scumbags here in the West already downplaying or even defending persecution of Whites in those countries.
- Explain how the hysterical condemnations of "White Nationalism" not only render the American Founding Fathers beyond the pale, but also Abraham Lincoln and most of the American soldiers that fought Hitler during WW2.
I used all these talking points myself back in the day, it's as though we're of very much like mind. That being said, I think there are a lot fewer "friendly normies" as you put it today than there were however many years ago when you were still on Gab. I'm of the view that most people have more or less chosen their sides on this topic and that many of the Trump voters who refuse to publicly admit to pro-White thought secretly support it, but since it's secret it's hard to measure exactly how many is "many."
Since most people have chosen their sides, it's now time to start building a parallel society in general. Parallel economy, parallel think tanks, parallel religion, parallel entertainment media, and so on. Why do you suppose I write my zine? (By the way, here's my umpteenth invite to write for it) It's time to openly start refusing to associate with wokesters and leftists and violent niggers and whoever else, jews, name it.
Why do you suppose Sweet Baby Inc et al are using harassment tactics against Whites (and other rightoids)? It's because we're doing exactly this. My one zine is a drop in the bucket. Here's a good example of another rightoid who is doing this, and he's not even really White: Jon Del Arroz. I met him years ago playing World of Darkness on Wanton Wicked. Turns out, today, he's a comic book artist making a living off of it, and he's pointedly right wing. I bring up "other rightoids" because race is one of many axes to align on.
I'd still be a paypiggy for the TRS people if the podcastrace listenership weren't so cultish and their takes so wacky and retarded, not because I couldn't just pirate their media, but because I want to see them win. And I'm one of millions of people willing to do this now. We're a minority, but at this stage, we're a really big one.
I didn't ignore your point. In both cases, we were working within the current context. And in the current context, things are... complicated. It's why we can't get away with being single-issue or being dismissive of something because it doesn't solve all of our problems.
Rightoids are forming what amounts to our own inverted form of "intersectionality." Race is one issue, but so is ideology, sex, orientation, religion, and so on. So while I'm more than willing to work with pro-Whites on racial issues, I'm also willing to work with pro-Christians on religious ones even if they aren't White. I'm willing to work with atheist manosphere types on the question of feminism. And so on.
To loop back to the muh Constitution types, I'm willing to work with them on ideological grounds even if they're misguided racially. If those people socially filter for others who are super duper into muh Constitution, guess who they're going to get? Predominantly, straight white men. So I'm very reluctant to disparage muh Constitution even if I think it's outmoded these days. I'll definitely appeal to muh 2A if someone tries to take my guns, because I'd prefer to win on abstract legal grounds than have to actually shoot somebody.
@NEETzsche@rlier23 I don't plan to specifically do writing gigs, but you certainly have my blessing to take and reprint any Fedi post of mine you find interesting, be it political posts or vidya/pop culture writeups, and even edit them for readability, context and legality.
Yeah I feel that about Constitution worshipers, but I want to abstract that one layer out and really say it's about people who engage in this kind of idol worship in general. I've seen a lot of really cringe efforts to place all of the faith into specific people or institutions. Specific people (Hitler worship), specific institutions (the Free Software Foundation!), specific churches (Catholicism, LDS, etc), specific ideologies (capitalism, Nazism), and yes, specific races (Whites, usually, since that's what my race is) and so on.
It's a really bad approach to take because it locks people into dispositions they can't escape from once they become impractical and unconscionable. Taking Your Own Side means a lot of things in a lot of different contexts, and when I carouse around online in rightoid circles I see a lot of myopia on it. Is it the JQ? Is it the WQ? Is it illegal immigrants? Is it shitlibs?
@NEETzsche@ChristiJunior the issue i see with those that idolize the constitution so much is that they put so much faith in it to the point where they go blind and close themselves to playing dirty when it's necessary.
i may try to work with them but my methods may be too distasteful for them and may even try to take me down for them so better for me is to be at a distance