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    Ben Werdmuller (ben@werd.social)'s status on Tuesday, 12-Mar-2024 09:50:44 JST Ben Werdmuller Ben Werdmuller
    • ProPublica

    The investigative newsroom I work for, @ProPublica, is raising money right now. We report on abuses of power in the public interest - stories like corruption on the Supreme Court. It was the first outlet to win a Pulitzer for web-first journalism. And if you donate through this link, you'll let our team know that Mastodon is an audience to pay attention to. https://give.propublica.org/give/346528/#!/donation/checkout?c_src=mstdn #journalism #fediverse #mastodon

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      Erin Conroy (chargrille@progressives.social)'s status on Tuesday, 12-Mar-2024 09:50:43 JST Erin Conroy Erin Conroy
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      @ben

      Done!

      I have donated to ProPublica over the years (not as much as I should, though!) and I strongly encourage my friends on here to donate now.

      ProPublica is a great pro-democracy, anti-corruption resource here in the US, and it would go a long way for them to know Mastodon is an audience aligned with their work.

      In that vein, I would be super grateful if you guys had a Mastodon share button on your articles instead of, or in addition to, buttons for Twitter & Facebook.

      @ProPublica

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      Chris Real (_chris_real@kolektiva.social)'s status on Tuesday, 12-Mar-2024 22:43:32 JST Chris Real Chris Real
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      @ben @ProPublica

      Nothing like being told it's only my money that matters. Mastodon only matters to you if it means your "team" doesn't need to work hard to fund it.

      Swallow your pride—sell some steak knives or whatever. The corruption of the Supreme Court is well and heavily covered by all your competitors. For free.

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      Anil Dash (anildash@me.dm)'s status on Tuesday, 12-Mar-2024 22:43:32 JST Anil Dash Anil Dash
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      @_chris_real can't tell if you're too stupid to realize how wrong you are, or if you don't know what "free" means.

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      Anil Dash (anildash@me.dm)'s status on Tuesday, 12-Mar-2024 22:44:33 JST Anil Dash Anil Dash
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      @_chris_real Ask Marcy what she thinks of this kind of journalism — she'll tell you to support it. There is nothing noble in wanting important work to not be supported, or valuable labor to go uncompensated.

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      Chris Real (_chris_real@kolektiva.social)'s status on Tuesday, 12-Mar-2024 22:44:34 JST Chris Real Chris Real
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      @ben

      Of course. Troll for more money. Our ways are not separate, but our means to our ends define us.

      I will match your barely adequate investigating with Marcy Wheeler's any day. Your 'breaking' claims are pretty irrelevant. The truth was there—it matters not who was first, but who made it MATTER.

      You come to us with hat in hand, but suggesting that getting my goat is a discourse ender. Maybe my goat was got when you decided to monetize your virtue. I suggest you re-evaluate your 'yeah-but-ish' mentality.

      Yeah, just walk away. . .

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      Ben Werdmuller (ben@werd.social)'s status on Tuesday, 12-Mar-2024 22:44:35 JST Ben Werdmuller Ben Werdmuller
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      @_chris_real *I* didn’t do anything. But yeah, the journalists broke the story. By doggedly following it for a long time. That’s what ProPublica does: actual investigative journalism that takes a lot of resources to produce. There’s a pretty good article about what it took here. https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2023/05/clarence-thomas-harlan-crow-propublica-biggest-supreme-court-story.html

      My Mastodon comment was really a flippant way of saying that I’d like Mastodon to show up in our stats.

      But I seem to have got your goat,so I’d like to suggest we go our separate ways. Bye.

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      Chris Real (_chris_real@kolektiva.social)'s status on Tuesday, 12-Mar-2024 22:44:36 JST Chris Real Chris Real
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      @ben

      You told me that your opinion of Mastodon depended on how much money they sent you. You can't squirm out of that judgement by claiming you're a non-profit—but you "really need" money.

      Did you —really— "break a story" though? Or were you the first who published what was well-known, but many were struggling to make known?

      Your whole "but still—Capitalism?!?" reeks of the monarchists who infest post-capitalist marketplaces. We also call them magats and fascists.

      Stick to steak knives (at least it's honest), although I hear silver-infused bedsheets also do well.

      Read Marcy Wheeler/emptywheel for examples of 'actual' no-one-pays journalism.

      I am a musician. You've got nothing to school me with about working for free.

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      Ben Werdmuller (ben@werd.social)'s status on Tuesday, 12-Mar-2024 22:44:37 JST Ben Werdmuller Ben Werdmuller
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      @_chris_real Hey! Our journalism is free to access. And I'm a decades-long part of the open social web movement - Mastodon is very important to me indeed. I didn't mean to offend with my framing.

      We're on a funding drive because it's a non-profit (like other public media outlets). Nobody pays to read what we do.

      And others may be covering it, but it was our investigation that broke the story.

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