🎓 Doc Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱
Them: Says something stupid
me: gives opinion
Them: Citation needed
Me: agreed, you need to cite your claim, since you are the one making it the onus is on you.
Them: How dare you demand a citation, blocked.
QT: https://dice.camp/@kenmarable/112078787206499152
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"How dare you demand a citation, blocked."
how the left debates:
🎓 Doc Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱
Yea, textbook liberal "debate" tactics.
Not the the right is a paragon of excellence when it comes to debating, but their MO tends to be a bit different (less blocking, more trolling most of the time).
🎓 Doc Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱
@admin Yea I didnt notice that when I responded obviously. But that would have been a minor change to what i said that doesnt really effect the overall message... the point is, its the OP who needs to cite their stance, which was stated as an objective truth. My stance was based off of personal experience and thus weaker than objective evidence but also not needing citation. That said so long as the OP didnt provide any citations than my own stance was no weaker than the OP, they were both just statements of opinion.
Some Internet Person ✡︎ :ally:
@freemo
To be fair, though.. the toot to which you replied was authored by a different person than the one who asked for citations... or at least a different account.
🎓 Doc Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱
@admin Agreed, and thanks for pointing that out. It is good to know (as I didnt realize that).
Some Internet Person ✡︎ :ally:
@freemo I (mostly) agree with your point.. it was just the troublemaker who blocked you isn't the author of the first toot... and you're probably better off without that troublemaker anyway.
Human Change?=Work Together!🔁
@freemo Imagine the people we mock on the outside turn out to be quite similar on the fediverse :fediverse: once it gets down to it...
I thought about listing people and how it came to such blocks...
I might actually name/slightly shame people (or take recommendations how to no let this go silent / go unseen).
Any depth or complexity that scratches any surface ends up with this kind of result.
Kinda scary for me as constantly I'm thinking / wishing people are different to that of the 'outside' and even twitter :twitter: world 🌐.
So not being too negative but the comebacks of "I don't have time" / "it's too long" / "who are you" / "why are you asking about me" is just a steady increasing list I'll put in 1 post (once search is enabled again for our own toots on #QOTO).
🎓 Doc Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱
I'm all for transparency.. if that shames someone so be it, but its important to be fair and crtitical of yourself when you do so.
I think too many people try to engineer their words to play a social game... Id rather people just have no mind to mouth filter and let it sort itself out.
Human Change?=Work Together!🔁
@freemo Interesting how you see it and depending on what game, I'd lean towards agreeing but also not giving them so much credit at the same time / assuming that intelligence.
I simply see them as more:
█non players or not playing / no risk players though able to speak and not play (1 way action)
█ don't have to justify anything to anyone
█ are not there to be answerable to a nobody (might be a fan if really they think person is worth it or can get something obvious from them)
So that's probably the kind of social game I think people play which related to:
█ bare minimals
█ not accepting blame
█ finding imperfection hard to accept or live with (in themselves mostly sometimes)
█ balancing imperfection is too hard for them (needs people to let go or practice being less mad / biting their fist)
That's why people have friends who can say it, despite major down sides, exchanging the truth or humour more than social faux pas which I can see can lose 'friends' easily like me! ('friend' in these quotes as they are not really friends when it comes to any test which inevitably does).
Least some of them run GNU / Linux though ! (It's a start...)
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