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   🏳️ Ben Soule :coffefied: (retrohondajunki@mstdn.social)'s status on Thursday, 07-Mar-2024 22:41:25 JST 🏳️ Ben Soule :coffefied:

   • Evan Prodromou

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   More background needed

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     Evan Prodromou (evan@cosocial.ca)'s status on Thursday, 07-Mar-2024 22:41:24 JST Evan Prodromou

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     @retrohondajunki "benefit of the doubt" means "A favorable judgement given in the absence of full evidence. "

     https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/benefit_of_the_doubt

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     Evan Prodromou (evan@cosocial.ca)'s status on Friday, 08-Mar-2024 04:22:14 JST Evan Prodromou

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     • Brooke Vibber :blobcatcoffee:

     @brooke @retrohondajunki they did not ask what "benefit of the doubt" means, but the request for "more background" shows a lack of understanding of what benefit of the doubt means. "Benefit of the doubt" is what you give when you don't have more background.

     "Benefit of the doubt" is very similar to our principle of "assume good faith" in wiki world.

     https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Assume_good_faith

     "How should you interact with known bad actors" is a different question.

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     Brooke Vibber :blobcatcoffee: (brooke@bikeshed.vibber.net)'s status on Friday, 08-Mar-2024 04:22:15 JST Brooke Vibber :blobcatcoffee:

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     • Evan Prodromou

     @evan I suspect what @retrohondajunki is asking is "what are the people doing with their implementation, and is it good/bad/indifferent" rather than "what does benefit of the doubt mean"

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     Evan Prodromou (evan@cosocial.ca)'s status on Friday, 08-Mar-2024 04:28:52 JST Evan Prodromou

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     • Brooke Vibber :blobcatcoffee:

     @brooke @retrohondajunki you mean, like, when driving or applying for a loan or whatever? Obviously not.

     I'm asking, if you find a new AP implementation, do you start with the expectation that their intent is benevolent, or do you start with an assumption that they are planning to do harm.

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     Brooke Vibber :blobcatcoffee: (brooke@bikeshed.vibber.net)'s status on Friday, 08-Mar-2024 04:28:53 JST Brooke Vibber :blobcatcoffee:

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     • Evan Prodromou

     @evan @retrohondajunki then my answer is "not more or less than anyone else"

     (which is not an option)

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     Evan Prodromou (evan@cosocial.ca)'s status on Friday, 08-Mar-2024 10:54:36 JST Evan Prodromou

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     • jlin

     @jlin @brooke @retrohondajunki you should definitely write the poll as you want to see it.

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     jlin (jlin@fosstodon.org)'s status on Friday, 08-Mar-2024 10:54:37 JST jlin

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     • Evan Prodromou
     • Brooke Vibber :blobcatcoffee:

     @evan @brooke @retrohondajunki this is a much clearer (and very different) formulation of the original question. in my opinion, the poll should be rewritten to use this version. you will receive much much different results.