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   Pamela Fox (pamelafox@fosstodon.org)'s status on Wednesday, 28-Feb-2024 08:11:23 JST Pamela Fox

   We realized we need to get a new car, as our 2001 car is on its last legs. I realize I've never actually bought a car, always just got hand-me-downs, so I don't know how to reason about such a large purchase. We're thinking PHEV (plugin hybrid), and we're a family that mostly takes very short trips. Any rec's?

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     GreenSkyOverMe (Monika) (greenskyoverme@ohai.social)'s status on Wednesday, 28-Feb-2024 08:11:22 JST GreenSkyOverMe (Monika)

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     @pamelafox plugins are kinda expensive because you lug around two heavy engines. The cheaper option for a family with mostly short trips is a battery electric vehicle and, if the charging infrastructure in your country does not support going long distances with electricity, borrowing a traditional car for the one or two long trips per year (or going by train if available).

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     GreenSkyOverMe (Monika) (greenskyoverme@ohai.social)'s status on Wednesday, 28-Feb-2024 08:14:13 JST GreenSkyOverMe (Monika)

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     @pamelafox I‘m mostly happy with my Nissan Leaf, except the plug type is CHAdeMO, and only 10% of the fast charging stations in my country are CHAdeMO, so that is a bit of a pain in the ass.

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     GreenSkyOverMe (Monika) (greenskyoverme@ohai.social)'s status on Wednesday, 28-Feb-2024 17:50:43 JST GreenSkyOverMe (Monika)

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     @pamelafox Not sure if you know about plugs already:

     Slow charging (e.g. at home, at parking garages) is "type 2" in all cars except some of the oldest electric vehicles and all slow charging stations, and you almost always use your own cable you have in the trunk, though a few have the cable on the station.

     Fast charging (not at home) is either CCS (90%) or CHAdeMO (10%); cable at station. Well, the split is for Europe, in Japan it's the opposite way, not sure about e.g. the US.

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     Pamela Fox (pamelafox@fosstodon.org)'s status on Wednesday, 28-Feb-2024 17:50:44 JST Pamela Fox

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     @GreenSkyOverMe oooh fascinating, our neighbors have a nissan leaf, so I'll ask them where they charge if I can manage to run into them. (I've just been scoping cars this week lol)

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     GreenSkyOverMe (Monika) (greenskyoverme@ohai.social)'s status on Wednesday, 28-Feb-2024 17:51:28 JST GreenSkyOverMe (Monika)

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     @pamelafox You can also charge with a standard cable at a standard household plug very slowly ... I wouldn't do it at an old house with old wiring, it might burn down, but most of the time it's okay.