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   Dial M for Madeye 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 (madeyethecarnaptious@mastodon.scot)'s status on Sunday, 25-Feb-2024 18:49:12 JST Dial M for Madeye 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

   "You don’t have to have Higher maths... to work out that even if every Westminster seat was won by a nationalist, their influence would be minimal. The Commons arithmetic ensures they can be outvoted on everything and anything."

   "If the ­allegedly independence-supporting troops have been made to look utterly irrelevant – and they surely have – what, precisely, is the point of them?"

   Ruth Wishart

   https://www.thenational.scot/politics/24142206.snp-cant-participate-westminster-leave/?ref=eb&nid=1948&u=e671d70c95fe09d863fcda0ac0a196a5&date=240224

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     Colin Dunn (indyposterboy@mastodon.scot)'s status on Sunday, 25-Feb-2024 18:49:11 JST Colin Dunn

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     @MadeyeTheCarnaptious Spot on.

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     Mrs Cloudy (cloudymrs@mastodon.scot)'s status on Sunday, 25-Feb-2024 18:49:53 JST Mrs Cloudy

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     • Paul H 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿🇪🇺

     @Henrysbridge @MadeyeTheCarnaptious ha. PC has just sent a representative to the Lords. She's excited to be there.

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     Paul H 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿🇪🇺 (henrysbridge@toot.wales)'s status on Sunday, 25-Feb-2024 18:49:54 JST Paul H 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿🇪🇺

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     @MadeyeTheCarnaptious

     That would be interesting - if SNP and PC MPs refused to take their seats at WM. It could send a powerful message, especially if such MPs formed a "balance of power" in a no-majority HoC.

     The one thing to be careful of is "cutting off your nose to spite your face" though

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     Mrs Cloudy (cloudymrs@mastodon.scot)'s status on Sunday, 25-Feb-2024 18:56:12 JST Mrs Cloudy

     • Paul H 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿🇪🇺

     @MadeyeTheCarnaptious @Henrysbridge No idea, but I was very disappointed to hear her being interviewed about it. She seems to have done some heavy grade mind contortions to persuade herself it was a good decision.

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     Mrs Cloudy (cloudymrs@mastodon.scot)'s status on Sunday, 25-Feb-2024 19:02:25 JST Mrs Cloudy

     • Paul H 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿🇪🇺

     @MadeyeTheCarnaptious @Henrysbridge Nope. She's throwing herself into her new role. https://www.itv.com/news/wales/2024-02-10/welsh-peer-becomes-youngest-ever-member-of-house-of-lords

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     Mrs Cloudy (cloudymrs@mastodon.scot)'s status on Sunday, 25-Feb-2024 19:04:35 JST Mrs Cloudy

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     • Paul H 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿🇪🇺

     @Henrysbridge @MadeyeTheCarnaptious I think I heard it on one of last weekends BBC Scotland morning programs. Can't remember which one. Sorry. Main emphasis was on her youth and her liking for DM boots. Absolutely tragic.

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     Paul H 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿🇪🇺 (henrysbridge@toot.wales)'s status on Sunday, 25-Feb-2024 19:04:36 JST Paul H 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿🇪🇺

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     @CloudyMrs @MadeyeTheCarnaptious

     I haven't seen that - probably some serious DoubleThink.

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     • Paul H 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿🇪🇺

     @Henrysbridge @MadeyeTheCarnaptious how much moderation have they done recently?

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     Paul H 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿🇪🇺 (henrysbridge@toot.wales)'s status on Sunday, 25-Feb-2024 19:05:31 JST Paul H 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿🇪🇺

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     @CloudyMrs @MadeyeTheCarnaptious

     True. The former leader of PC (Dafydd Wigley) is also there.

     I don't approve of the way the HoL is constituted, though I feel a second house is important to "moderate" the HoC.

     Here's an article about this:
     https://nation.cymru/news/plaid-cymru-row-over-house-of-lords-nominations/

     There seems to be an extra dimension causing controversy here in the voting by PC members for this nomination.

     Better to follow the SNP example, I think, though I can understand the desire for PC to have representation.