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@MK2boogaloo Well, I can't main Poast because some FSE refugees will not be able to talk to me, and the same with some other instances, but if Baest goes down, I will post on gh0st and Poast about where I am, maybe I'll be on gh0st or I'll be in dcc's closet or something. It's like the presidential succession act, we haven't had this many instances go down for this long, so there's no plan.
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@pernia @MK2boogaloo @p do this to me
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@chog9 @MK2boogaloo @p slander the salon one more time abd im sending you to the hot cum chamber
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@pernia @p @MK2boogaloo I don't like speaking for other people but he'd probably rather dip his balls in battery acid
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@p @MK2boogaloo join thr salon! :hapyday:
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@Tony @MK2boogaloo Well, bae.st works for now, and people know where to find it. I appreciate the offer, it's nice to be welcome to crash on people's couches. I want to get FSE rolling as quickly as possible though so I am slanging code right now.
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clew.lol does not block anyone and, mastodon aside, is generally not blocked.
I do my beset to maintain some sort of peace
clew.lol IS A SAFE SPACE
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@chog9 @MK2boogaloo @pernia Oh, plus the banner ads that say "CHILD PORN" all over them.
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@chog9 @pernia @MK2boogaloo It's a fine place but the trick is finding a place that isn't on the blocklists of the places that FSE people have picked as bugout zones.
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@Tony @MK2boogaloo Ha, I'm actually using bloat except I used the PleromaFE to make an announcement and drop some of the spambots those kids were running from their Discord server. But yeah, I can't into Soapbox FE. It fucks up notifications and fucks up threads and is basically Twitter but slow as a motherfucker.
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shameless self promotion lol.
Bae.st is good and federates with just about everyone on this side of fedi.
Plus the FE is pretty bomb, I can't argue that.
But, whenever I have a chance, I like to offer people a place at clew.lol. 😎
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@Tony @MK2boogaloo
> I don't have any issues with soapbox
The first thing was the login-wall. Gleason claims to be after mass-adoption but nobody creates an account just to find out what's going on: they need a reason to sign up. Most people don't know what fedi is or how it works, so the way Pleroma works out of the box is good: it just shows people the timeline. It works for Poast because people know who graf is, but you get very few people that see it and just sign up. Last time I saw him discuss this, he said "Oh, you just put /timelines/fediverse at the end of the URL" but nobody's gonna know to do that and even if you make it a link, that's a click. I used to suggest these things to him before I concluded that he is useless to talk to, but he ignores things like that.
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idk, I don't have any issues with soapbox in my instance, but im also retarded so there are probably things I don't notice.
I haven't tried Bloat, but pleroma FE is a superior front end, however it works best with more tech savy users. I think pleroma is best for normies or people who, like you say, like twitter lol.
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@Aspergtame @MK2boogaloo @Tony Fucks up threads, fucks up notifications, fucks up URLs, basically a copy of Twitter but slow as shit. If you have suggestions for improving it, feel free to contact the developer; my point is I can't use it.
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@p @MK2boogaloo @Tony Main problem with Soapbox is that there's no reason not to have two columns on a wide screen. It's wasting space. It's also a bit slow.
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@p @Tony @MK2boogaloo This is fixed now. You can browse without logging in.
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I mean you're right, but no none of the admins are actually pushing for monetizing the platform as far as i can tell.
From a functional, user standpoint, I think soapbox is probably the most user friendly.
If you want to talk about monetizing, no one is actually making an effort to do so as far as I can tell.
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@Tony @MK2boogaloo
> none of the admins are actually pushing for monetizing the platform
Not relevant; he says he's trying to push mass adoption, and if that really is the case, he's doing it wrong. What the admins are doing is the admins' business.
> From a functional, user standpoint, I think soapbox is probably the most user friendly.
It's dogshit on a paper plate as far as I can tell, but that's Gleason's business, not mine.
> no one is actually making an effort to do so as far as I can tell.
This is not a place where people are likely to make any money. Some of the commie instances have whales because they are appealing to the upper-middle class and take "donations" but anyone else is in the red. FSE has never taken donations, it's all out of pocket. (I think the closest that happened was graf sent me a couple of PSUs but I paid him back a week later.)
Anyway, my thoughts on Soapbox are my thoughts: I'm not a user nor a contributor nor a fan and won't be in any of those categories in the future, so I don't want to spend time discussing it. I'm writing code.
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@NonPlayableClown @Tony @MK2boogaloo You probably have most of the assets cached. Try Control-Shift-R or Shift-F5 or whatever your browser uses to disregard the cache.
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Agreed, it never ran slow on my side.
There were for sure quirks but most was me learning about Linux based web development more than anything else.
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@NonPlayableClown @Tony @MK2boogaloo
> As Aspergtame mentioned, that's been fixed.
I hit clew.lol and it's there. Anyway, not
> I'm sure there are better options to view/ filter your own timeline, but this very much site aesthetics.
It's not an aesthetic choice, it's UX for people that land on the page for the first time. I don't give a damn about normie-UX but have been in the industry long enough.
> People srr not sure what instances exists, what they are about, and don't want to memorize/ make 10 different accounts.
Sure. I'm not the right person to ask about mass adoption.
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>The first thing was the login-wall. Gleason claims to be after mass-adoption but nobody creates an account just to find out what's going on: they need a reason to sign up.
As Aspergtame mentioned, that's been fixed.
>Last time I saw him discuss this, he said "Oh, you just put /timelines/fediverse at the end of the URL" but nobody's gonna know to do that and even if you make it a link, that's a click.
I'm sure there are better options to view/ filter your own timeline, but this very much site aesthetics.
I think the bigger issue with fedi is not with soapbox at all, it's the nature of the Fediverse and exploring it.
People are not sure what instances exists, what they are about, and don't want to memorize/ make 10 different accounts.
I think the solution to this is to make a robust fedi management app that not only provide server suggestions, but ease of access for about pages, server blocks, account management and notification alerts.
It was something I was slowly working on but admittedly is on the back burner due to other projects.
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@p @Tony @MK2boogaloo @NonPlayableClown
> I'm not the right person to ask about mass adoption.
Aim for the middle Pete, manifest your own Septembers, why are you against progress?
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@Tony @p @MK2boogaloo
Plenty of people are, and it's one of the red flags that you're being sold something when "how the bills get paid" isn't explained outright.
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