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    Tim Chambers (tchambers@indieweb.social)'s status on Monday, 19-Feb-2024 06:25:51 JST Tim Chambers Tim Chambers

    FYI, as we look at #spam on the #Fediverse, I do think there are things to prep for TODAY to prepare for whenever #Threads federates.

    On that day if/when it happens:

    I don't worry about spam hitting US from THREADS, I worry about spammers setting up shop here to flood the 160MM Threads users.

    We need to prepare for that day and to be a good neighbor with our own houses in order. For the good of the Fediverse and the good of the open social web in general.

    In conversation Monday, 19-Feb-2024 06:25:51 JST from indieweb.social permalink
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      Tim Chambers (tchambers@indieweb.social)'s status on Monday, 19-Feb-2024 07:27:22 JST Tim Chambers Tim Chambers
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      • Cafou

      @cafou YMMV, but being a less spammy place to those who federate with us helps US too.

      In conversation Monday, 19-Feb-2024 07:27:22 JST permalink
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      Cafou (cafou@raru.re)'s status on Monday, 19-Feb-2024 07:27:23 JST Cafou Cafou
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      @tchambers

      Good. A huge part of fediverse is hostile to threads. I don't want to be a good neighbour for thread because i don't want to be neighbour in the first place. Facebook is not welcome here.

      In conversation Monday, 19-Feb-2024 07:27:23 JST permalink
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      Jon (jdp23@indieweb.social)'s status on Monday, 19-Feb-2024 07:57:38 JST Jon Jon
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      • Cafou

      @tchambers @cafou yeah. It's just as relevant for the regions of the fedvierse that aren't federating with Threads. If Threads provides a spam-free environment, and the fedierse provides an environment that's consistenly overrun by spam, that's a recipe for most people choosing Thresda -- and for burnout with fediverse admins and mods.

      In conversation Monday, 19-Feb-2024 07:57:38 JST permalink
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      Tim Chambers (tchambers@indieweb.social)'s status on Monday, 19-Feb-2024 08:16:55 JST Tim Chambers Tim Chambers
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      • Jon
      • Cafou

      @jdp23 @cafou Yep. True that.

      In conversation Monday, 19-Feb-2024 08:16:55 JST permalink
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      Jon (jdp23@indieweb.social)'s status on Monday, 19-Feb-2024 08:29:11 JST Jon Jon
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      @tchambers what's somewhat alarming here is that apparently the spam is winding up on federated timelines even on instances where nobody's following the spammers. So that means that when threads accounts that nobody's following makes transphobic-but-acceptable-to-threads posts they can wind on federated timelines. Of course they can then get reported, and mods can remove them ... but still, there are so many threads accounts that it sounds like a recipe for mod burnout.

      In conversation Monday, 19-Feb-2024 08:29:11 JST permalink
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      Tim Chambers (tchambers@indieweb.social)'s status on Monday, 19-Feb-2024 08:38:44 JST Tim Chambers Tim Chambers
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      • Jon

      @jdp23 Can you give specific examples of this?

      "what's somewhat alarming here is that apparently the spam is winding up on federated timelines even on instances where nobody's following the spammers. "

      I've not seen that. I've seen lots of @ messaging spam.

      In conversation Monday, 19-Feb-2024 08:38:44 JST permalink
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      Tim Chambers (tchambers@indieweb.social)'s status on Monday, 19-Feb-2024 08:49:44 JST Tim Chambers Tim Chambers
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      • Hrefna (DHC)

      @hrefna Thank you.

      In conversation Monday, 19-Feb-2024 08:49:44 JST permalink
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      Hrefna (DHC) (hrefna@hachyderm.io)'s status on Monday, 19-Feb-2024 08:49:45 JST Hrefna (DHC) Hrefna (DHC)
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      @tchambers Now this is a threat model worth putting some serious thought into.

      In conversation Monday, 19-Feb-2024 08:49:45 JST permalink
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      Jon (jdp23@indieweb.social)'s status on Monday, 19-Feb-2024 08:50:44 JST Jon Jon
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      @tchambers I haven't seen it myself but I'm told it's the case. I've even expressed my befuddlement: I thought stuff only showed up on the federated timeline if somebody was following them or somebody who boosted it, or if somebody local boosted it. But apparently I'm wrong about that?

      In conversation Monday, 19-Feb-2024 08:50:44 JST permalink
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      Tim Chambers (tchambers@indieweb.social)'s status on Monday, 19-Feb-2024 08:51:31 JST Tim Chambers Tim Chambers
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      • Jon

      @jdp23 I've not seen it yet either, but will keep my eyes open -- If you do find it share me a screen shot.

      In conversation Monday, 19-Feb-2024 08:51:31 JST permalink
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      Tim Chambers (tchambers@indieweb.social)'s status on Monday, 19-Feb-2024 08:52:07 JST Tim Chambers Tim Chambers
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      • Hrefna (DHC)
      • Cafou

      @hrefna @cafou

      EXACTLY.

      In conversation Monday, 19-Feb-2024 08:52:07 JST permalink
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      Hrefna (DHC) (hrefna@hachyderm.io)'s status on Monday, 19-Feb-2024 08:52:08 JST Hrefna (DHC) Hrefna (DHC)
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      • Cafou

      @cafou

      Such accounts will not limit themselves to spamming threads, you do realize this, yes?

      We'll be drowning in spam and threads's servers won't be the ones that suffer the brunt of it, everyone else will.

      @tchambers

      In conversation Monday, 19-Feb-2024 08:52:08 JST permalink
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      Jon (jdp23@indieweb.social)'s status on Tuesday, 20-Feb-2024 04:55:34 JST Jon Jon
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      @tchambers i'm not sure how many people are seeing spam in various places so set up a poll at https://infosec.exchange/@thenexusofprivacy/111959802210233290

      In conversation Tuesday, 20-Feb-2024 04:55:34 JST permalink

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        Where are you seeing spam? A followon poll! The [parent poll](https://infosec.exchange/@thenexusofprivacy/111959784711252400) asks whether you're seeing spam, and if so how much. If you _are_ seeing spam, where are you seeing it? Please check all that apply! @fediversenews@venera.social [ ] As a DM (direct message) [ ] As a notification [ ] As a reply to one of my post [ ] On my home feed [ ] On the local feed [ ] On the federated feed [ ] As a trending hashtag [ ] Somewhere else [ ] Not sure, but am seeing spam [ ] I'm not seeing spam

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