AnarchoNinaWrites
*shrugs*
Never forget the fascist exception. The simple truth is that fascism is not politics, or even a fully-fleshed out ideology. It's more or less a statement of murderous/violent intent. So yeah solidarity, and compassion, and cooperation, and mutual aid, and power to the people, and be kind to each other, and everyone should get a say, and love thy fellow man - except fascists. Because fascists are ink in the milk and will eventually destroy everything and everyone you love. Not complex.
AnarchoNinaWrites
Like every time I tell leaders we elected for the purpose of stopping the nazis that they're not using the powers at their disposal to do so, some smarmy both sides "centrist" will pop up in my mentions to say "sounds like dictator shit to me" as if I'm not for dismantling the police state. Newsflash? That option is not on the table yet, and since it isn't, I'm pretty much fine with using it to neutralize nazis. Not that this will happen, but the govt would do this to YOU for being a pinko.
AnarchoNinaWrites
Again, if nazis don't like it, there's an easy solution to this problem - they could stop being nazis. Can their victims say the same thing? Can they stop being Black, or gay, or a woman who doesn't want to be a baby factory? So no, it's not actually the same thing.
AnarchoNinaWrites
Dealing with fascists is messy, it's difficult, it sometimes requires you to take actions you'd never even consider if not for the presence of fascists. This would be WHY folks like me were screaming "we need to stamp this shit out BEFORE it becomes widespread, normalized, and politically empowered."
You missed that off ramp; that means there are some HARD choices coming for us all. Do not let yourself be trolled into refusing to make those choices via some both sides nonsense. Nazis gotta go
goatsarah
@AnarchoNinaWrites This is what saddens me so much. Last time we ended up having to drop so many bombs that the rubble bounced.
And before we executed them, or put them in prison forever, or got them to help build moon rockets, they were REALLY CLEAR that the only thing that would have stopped them was being stamped on hard the moment they appeared.
And yet ... here we are. Feels like the instructions were not complicated, but still ignored.
goatsarah
@Illuminatus @YakyuNightOwl @AnarchoNinaWrites True, although it does remind me of one of the funniest skits I remember from the 80s...
"Monday: Woke up, looked out of the window, went for a walk in the garden."
"Tuesday: Woke up, looked out of the window, went for a walk in the garden."
"Wednesday: Woke up, looked out of the window, went for a walk in the garden."
"Thursday: Woke up, looked out of the window, went for a walk in the garden."
"Friday: Woke up, looked out of the window, went for a walk in the garden."
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Seiðr
@YakyuNightOwl @goatsarah @AnarchoNinaWrites Also, as to the "put them in prison forever"… so few of those.
Seiðr
@YakyuNightOwl @goatsarah @AnarchoNinaWrites As a Spanish, I can offer these two images:
Yakyu Night Owl
@goatsarah @AnarchoNinaWrites Once the last of the tickertape was swept out of the streets of New York, Portugal lived under fascism until the Carnation Revolution in 1974, and Spain until the death of Franco in 1975.
Mussolini had codified Italian fascism in 1922. The US wasn't busy "fighting fascism" for another 20 years. 53 years of fascism in Europe with 3 years of combat in the middle, and we wonder why it's still an issue.
goatsarah
Anarchic Teapot ⚧️
@YakyuNightOwl @Illuminatus @goatsarah @AnarchoNinaWrites Much LOL. That moronic question "Are you, or have you ever been, a member of the Communist Party" is still asked of visitors to the US.
Yakyu Night Owl
@Illuminatus @goatsarah @AnarchoNinaWrites All of this. It's even more galling when the HUAC is going after "communists" during the 1950s while thousands of members of the German-American Bund live their lives unbothered by being loud and proud Nazi sympathizers.
Seiðr
@goatsarah @YakyuNightOwl @AnarchoNinaWrites Yes, but then you read about the Trial of the Generals, or the Trial of the Doctors or so, so many SS guards in the camps who didn't get to be prosecuted until the 60's, and it's all so fucking frustrating.
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