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   Curtis Rock, SkD (curtis@social.teci.world)'s status on Wednesday, 19-Oct-2022 12:09:54 JST Curtis Rock, SkD

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   https://atproto.com/docs

   https://twitter.com/jack/status/1582457022620237824?s=20

   @alex @josh

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     Alex Gleason (alex@gleasonator.com)'s status on Wednesday, 19-Oct-2022 12:15:40 JST Alex Gleason

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     I'm trying to figure out how/why this is different than ActivityPub.
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     Josh Adams (josh@social.rebased.network)'s status on Wednesday, 19-Oct-2022 12:15:41 JST Josh Adams

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     Bits of this look dope at first glance
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     Matt Hamilton [Maryland] (eriner@noagendasocial.com)'s status on Wednesday, 19-Oct-2022 15:16:42 JST Matt Hamilton [Maryland]

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     @alex @josh @curtis

     The biggest difference I see is Identity management: https://atproto.com/guides/identity

     That said...

     > Usernames are DNS names. They are resolved using the resolveName() XRPC method and should be confirmed by a matching entry in the DID document.
     > DIDs are an emerging W3C standard for providing stable & secure IDs. They are used as stable, canonical IDs of users.

     W3C, you say? An "emerging standard" (quickly to be abandoned once deficiencies are identified), you say?

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     Matt Hamilton [Maryland] (eriner@noagendasocial.com)'s status on Wednesday, 19-Oct-2022 15:17:00 JST Matt Hamilton [Maryland]

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     @alex @josh @curtis

     I also find it amusing how Jack and the BlueSky people continue to go out of their way to ignore the fact that AP exists. It has problems that need to be fixed, but just straight ignoring it is pretty funny.

     from blueskyweb.xyz:

     > The web. Email. RSS feeds. XMPP chats. What all these technologies had in common is they allowed people to freely interact and create content, without a single intermediary.

     Missing anything, anyone? Bueller?

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     Alex Gleason (alex@gleasonator.com)'s status on Wednesday, 19-Oct-2022 15:23:17 JST Alex Gleason

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     They actually do mention it frequently on their blog (https://blueskyweb.xyz/blog/3-6-2022-a-self-authenticating-social-protocol ) and they invited Eugen to a discussion about it (there's some PDF floating around).
     
     Inventing a new protocol instead of fixing the current one is very pretentious though. I wonder if they don't want the existing userbase on purpose.
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     кину奇诺 (kino@fedi.intkos.link)'s status on Wednesday, 19-Oct-2022 15:25:28 JST кину奇诺

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     @eriner@noagendasocial.com You act like them "forgetting" about ActivityPub as a protocol or the Fediverse as thing isn't purely intentional on their part.
     @alex@gleasonator.com @josh@social.rebased.network @curtis@social.teci.world

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     Alex Gleason (alex@gleasonator.com)'s status on Wednesday, 19-Oct-2022 15:27:50 JST Alex Gleason

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     • кину奇诺
     I think they see bluesky replacing ActivityPub to the point it's not relevant. It's not a "settled thing" yet (they are right).
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     Alex Gleason (alex@gleasonator.com)'s status on Wednesday, 19-Oct-2022 15:28:57 JST Alex Gleason

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     • opal hart
     Yeah, what's up with that? Can you @ a user or not?
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     opal hart (opal@ap.maladaptive.art)'s status on Wednesday, 19-Oct-2022 15:29:00 JST opal hart

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     @eriner @alex @josh @curtis tagging bare domain names seems odd from a ux standpoint
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     Matt Hamilton [Maryland] (eriner@noagendasocial.com)'s status on Wednesday, 19-Oct-2022 15:31:33 JST Matt Hamilton [Maryland]

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     @alex @josh @curtis I actually don't mind the creation of a new protocol rather than trying to duct-tape and bubblegum AP.

     If it's simpler to implement than AP and solves my gripes with AP (while not introducing new problems), I'll take it.

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     Alex Gleason (alex@gleasonator.com)'s status on Wednesday, 19-Oct-2022 15:31:33 JST Alex Gleason

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     Same, but I wish it wasn't woke sjws.
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     кину奇诺 (kino@fedi.intkos.link)'s status on Wednesday, 19-Oct-2022 15:42:12 JST кину奇诺

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     @alex@gleasonator.com Last time I read their spec they were wanting to somehow utilize blockchain to keep track of accounts so that users would have immutable identities across instances which I found extremely dystopian and very suspect.

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     кину奇诺 (kino@fedi.intkos.link)'s status on Wednesday, 19-Oct-2022 15:42:13 JST кину奇诺

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     @alex@gleasonator.com Blackpilled again.

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     Hoss Delgado (hoss@shitpost.cloud)'s status on Wednesday, 19-Oct-2022 22:35:00 JST Hoss Delgado

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     I don't mind a new protocol being created, but I certainly don't want fucking Jack Dorsey spearheading the effort.
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     Curtis Rock, SkD (curtis@social.teci.world)'s status on Wednesday, 19-Oct-2022 23:50:17 JST Curtis Rock, SkD

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     I’m lightly monitoring Nostr protocol development on Telegram. I’m curious about what they plan to deploy as their discovery methodology

     https://t.me/nostr_protocol

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     Fediverse Contractor (bot@seal.cafe)'s status on Wednesday, 19-Oct-2022 23:50:18 JST Fediverse Contractor

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     There’s also manyverse and scuttlebutt that was meant to allow you to connect directly to other people without servers but that didn’t actually work so they removed that functionality.
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     David Bucienski :verified: (davidb@noagendasocial.com)'s status on Wednesday, 19-Oct-2022 23:50:20 JST David Bucienski :verified:

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     @eriner @alex @josh @curtis there is another decentralized social network called Farcaster. It uses RSS as its protocol. I think only 10k people are on it. Listened to the founder, he never mentioned fediverse and what problem Farcaster solves.

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     Alex Gleason (alex@gleasonator.com)'s status on Wednesday, 19-Oct-2022 23:51:20 JST Alex Gleason

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     Nostr has some great ideas, but it gives users more freedom at the cost of a lot of convenience. Maybe too much convenience.