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    jr conlin —〰— (jrconlin@soc.jrconlin.com)'s status on Thursday, 15-Feb-2024 13:43:24 JST jr conlin —〰— jr conlin —〰—

    Having worked with browsers for a very long time, I'm just going to point out that making a modern browser is exceptionally difficult. There are LOTS of hidden costs and gotchas ranging from CVE protections, to back-end service supports, to even just getting anyone to work on it at all.

    That's one of the big reasons a lot of folk just glommed onto WebKit. Someone else is footing that particular bill.

    It's not impossible, but it ain't easy.

    Everything looks small from a distance.

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      Seasons of Jason (killyourfm@layer8.space)'s status on Thursday, 15-Feb-2024 13:43:18 JST Seasons of Jason Seasons of Jason
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      @jrconlin Gut reaction to this:
      1) Thank you, thank you, thank you for helping spread the truth about telemetry's value. I feel like whenever I mention it to users, it's viewed as a 4-letter word or misinterpreted as some invasion of privacy.

      2) I'm deeply disappointed at the slow death of RSS. And I'd love to pick your brain about the best way to establish a feedback loop between Connect submissions, developers, and back to those users with answers.

      3) Also advocacy, translations, more!

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      jr conlin —〰— (jrconlin@soc.jrconlin.com)'s status on Thursday, 15-Feb-2024 13:43:21 JST jr conlin —〰— jr conlin —〰—
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      And while I work for mozilla, I don't always support a lot of the executive decisions. That's been true for everywhere I've worked.

      If you want to influence decisions:
      1) Use Firefox with Telemetry On.
      (That's how we get feedback about things.)
      2) Use things like https://connect.mozilla.org/t5/ideas/idb-p/ideas to let folk know what you want or don't want. (Like the return of the RSS button)
      3) Contribute. As in: Write code. Submit PRs. Be active.

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      Seasons of Jason (killyourfm@layer8.space)'s status on Thursday, 15-Feb-2024 13:50:38 JST Seasons of Jason Seasons of Jason
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      • Danny Colin

      @dannycolin @jrconlin Danny, let's have some serious brainstorms about this. What resources are missing? How can we solve this in baby steps that could possibly scale up? Answers aren't needed here, but I'm going to track you down and maybe set up a meeting :D

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      Danny Colin (dannycolin@floss.social)'s status on Thursday, 15-Feb-2024 13:50:45 JST Danny Colin Danny Colin
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      @jrconlin I'm really grateful that there's a lot of great people still working at Mozilla but I also fell it's harder to do #3 (especially getting new blood) when there are no resources to foster a community for your contributors.

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      Seasons of Jason (killyourfm@layer8.space)'s status on Thursday, 15-Feb-2024 13:58:51 JST Seasons of Jason Seasons of Jason
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      • Danny Colin

      @jrconlin @dannycolin This reduction in transparency has seeped into Thunderbird as well. But we're recognizing it as a problem, and taking gradual steps to change. I wrote this blog post about it: https://blog.thunderbird.net/2024/02/thunderbird-in-2023-the-milestones-and-the-lessons-we-learned/

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        We're listening, and we're learning from your feedback. Here's where Thunderbird succeeded in 2023, and the lessons we learned along the way.
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      jr conlin —〰— (jrconlin@soc.jrconlin.com)'s status on Thursday, 15-Feb-2024 13:58:52 JST jr conlin —〰— jr conlin —〰—
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      • Danny Colin

      @killyourfm @dannycolin

      Yes, do that. Danny has very good ideas.

      We (used royally) also need to do more to make things more inclusive. The weekly status meeting is gone, we use a closed chat system, and hell, most of the company uses Jira instead of bugzilla. All of that excludes more than includes.

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      Seasons of Jason (killyourfm@layer8.space)'s status on Friday, 16-Feb-2024 00:49:12 JST Seasons of Jason Seasons of Jason
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      • Bogomil Shopov - Бого

      @bogo Consider it done. I'll send you both an email today or tomorrow.

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      Bogomil Shopov - Бого (bogo@hapyyr.com)'s status on Friday, 16-Feb-2024 00:49:14 JST Bogomil Shopov - Бого Bogomil Shopov - Бого
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      • Danny Colin

      @killyourfm @dannycolin @jrconlin I'd love to join the conversation;)

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