"What an alien species instance alien234890f9.space federates completely with misskey server meow.social but is in a language that no human being understands or can ever figure out, given linguistic distance between human languages and this alien language? Is alien234890f9.space part of the fediverse?"
"What if a mastodon server furryneohegeliansternerists.gay federates successfully with poa.st over activitypub/websockets, but no other instance, but their users all, independently of eachother, and without any instruction from a fediblock list, block every single poast user one after eachother...is furryneohegeliansternerists.gay part of the fediverse?"
"what if the instance bigresponses.icu implements activitypub to the letter but every response sends back responses that are 100TB large, is bigresponses.icu part of the fediverse?"
valintinesdaycomefederateme.baby is a server that doesn't support AP, Zot, Ostatus, or any protocol at all, it's just a list of women who have promised to fuck anyone on the fediverse. One at a time, many at a time, whatever -- they "federate" in a "biblical" sense only, and only with fediverse men(and women). They will fly to wherever you are in the world, and have sex with you as much and as long as you can/want. Is valintinesdaycomefederateme.baby part of the fediverse?
@snarfed.org@fed.brid.gy builds an AT bridge, similar to mostr.pub called blostr.pub . Now all bluesky users are available for communication with any fediverse instance that federates with blostr.pub(ie everyone except about half of the mastodon instances behind the rainbow curtain) and those same fediverse users are able to communicate with anyone on any bluesky/AT server(read: just bluesky) back. Is bluesky part of the fediverse?
poastchronaphone.net implements AP/mastodon api/etc and federates completely with a bunch of different servers, with a catch - every word that the poastchronaphone.net users say gets translated to ["nigger"]* (ie "nigger nigger nigger nigger" for "this is an example"), and everything that users on others say to poastchronaphone.net users gets translated via 4changpt & RNN image generators to a series of gifs making fun of the person who is sending the message. It's still possible to communicate, and people have managed to get limited yes/no responses using such social conventions as "nigger once for yes nigger twice for no". Is poastchronaphone.net part of the fediverse?
fediverseserver.social implements AT protocol, and federates successfully with other bluesky servers. They openly claim to be part of the fediverse, but only interoperate with bluesky. Is fediverseserver.social on the fediverse?
@jeffcliff Ok, that one is easy. Fedi is a circlejerk and most here hate corporations. fediserver.social is not a part of the fediverse as everyone hates them for interacting exclusively with bsky.
hamburgerposter.club, a instance for american hamburger enthusiasts, gets put on a fediblock list and is promptly blocked by everyone on the other side of the rainbow curtain, not because they did anything wrong, but entirely because their name "sounds like" "the usual suspects" that have committed what the Official Mastodon Great Leaders have designated thoughtcrime. hamburgerposter.club federates with everyone except the biggest instances (such as mastodon.social ), where most normal people on the fediverse are users of. Is hamburgerposter.club part of the fediverse?
"Despite calling itself 'the mastodon network' and 'the network without nazis' gnu/social instance hh.social federates with, but is suspended by mastodon.social and virtually every other mastodon server. But only mastodon servers, because their admin has yet to discover pleroma/misskey/etc. Is this universally-suspended, but still pulling data from mastodon servers nazi-instance hh.social part of the fediverse?"
earendel.net successfully implements both mastodon api/w3c standard activitypub but is 28 billion lightyears away. Although they are able to communicate through a series of relays through to the interplanetary internet relays to mastodon/pleroma/misskey servers, responses are....very slow. So slow, that chances are pretty good none of the servers which are responding to their federation attempts will exist by the time the next set of responses comes from them. Their users want to learn about earth and try to respond but by the time their responses get here the earth will be a dust, part of a long since dead sun.
jenny cliff, a fediverse advocate, has an account on both cia/facebook and many points on the fediverse (ie is able to communicate with basically everyone on the fediverse and on facebook) and makes public posts on both saying she will faithfully act as a human bridge between the two allowing any fediverse user to view, send messages to, like, respond, RT, etc any FB post (through her account) and any CIA/facebook user to send messages to, view, like, respond, RT, etc any fediverse post (through her account). It's a lot of work for jenny but she successfully manages to present both sides with a great deal of information from the other side.
As long as she's doing this, is CIA/facebook part of the fediverse?
yo.com is its own proprietary server, that federates via activitypub but *ONLY* messages that comprise of a single two character sequence "yo", along with the user(s) they are directed to. This fact is not documented anywhere. Messages that are sent to/from this server to any mastodon/pleroma/etc server go through successfully but *only* the message "yo" can be sent. yo.com makes no pretense of supporting an open standard and encourages federation with other proprietary servers via proprietary protocols. Is yo.com on the fediverse?
c.matrix.org is a matrix server, and 'federates' with other matrix servers. It doesn't ever even mention the term 'fediverse' one way or the other, but is a free/open source federated software server/client/whatever. Is c.matrix.org on the fediverse?
There's a honda civic, with a bumper sticker "thisisacar.auto" on it, parked on the grass in the middle of your local public park. Is thisisacar.auto part of the fediverse?
It turns out that there's only one single quark (called "monad") in the whole universe, time is a closed curve, and the quark is experiencing time subjectively concurrently through the bazillions of apparent different particles(ie itself in a single spacetime path that interact with past and future versions of itself) - but there's only one point particle that makes up every server, every charged electron in memory, everything. collections of this single particle called 'mastodon.social' and 'elephant.social' federate successfully via websocket/mastodon api/ap/etc but it's just one particle. Even though the rest of the fediverse *is* just that one particle, and elephant.social is just that one particle Is elephant.social part of the fediverse?
@admitsWrongIfProven@alex@jeffcliff I think a carrier pigeon could be part of the fediverse. I just thought of something. What if carrier pigeons for large file movement and some type of wireless signal for transferring data to one another for messages and things along the way. We could have a carrier pigeon swarm become a part of the fediverse.
@BowsacNoodle@alex@jeffcliff Data capacity on physical media is discussed on https://what-if.xkcd.com/ long ago. You can absolutely transfer more physically, but the question remains: does this pidgeon implement the api correctly?
@BowsacNoodle@alex@jeffcliff@Schnits Who cares... price is just a metric of how efficiently we kill ourselves. I measure things in tastiness of fairy pee. Much more rational!