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   R. L. Dane :debian: :openbsd: (rl_dane@fosstodon.org)'s status on Tuesday, 13-Feb-2024 08:47:42 JST R. L. Dane :debian: :openbsd:

   Dear @mozilla
   Please, please, please put the RSS indicator back in Firefox.

   People need to know about this technology which empowers users over greedy, controlling corporations.

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     R. L. Dane :debian: :openbsd: (rl_dane@fosstodon.org)'s status on Tuesday, 13-Feb-2024 13:31:35 JST R. L. Dane :debian: :openbsd:

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     Whoa, I haven't had a post blow up like this in a long time. 😄

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     R. L. Dane :debian: :openbsd: (rl_dane@fosstodon.org)'s status on Tuesday, 13-Feb-2024 13:31:36 JST R. L. Dane :debian: :openbsd:

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     • CubeOfCheese

     @cubeofcheese @mozilla

     It never had one. It just displays the feed as a generic XML file. But the RSS button let you know the feed was available, and you could copy the URL and paste it into your reader/aggregator.

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     clacke (clacke@libranet.de)'s status on Tuesday, 13-Feb-2024 13:31:36 JST clacke

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     • CubeOfCheese

     @RL_Dane Firefox did have dynamic bookmarks, which could be used as a primitive RSS reader. But that's long gone, along with the RSS indicator.

     @cubeofcheese @mozilla

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     CubeOfCheese (cubeofcheese@mstdn.social)'s status on Tuesday, 13-Feb-2024 13:31:37 JST CubeOfCheese

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     @RL_Dane @mozilla does firefox have a built in rss feed reader?

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     clacke (clacke@libranet.de)'s status on Tuesday, 13-Feb-2024 14:53:05 JST clacke

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     • Alex

     @alex_02 Yes, you could see which feeds were associated with the current page, and either go to a feed to see its XML rendered as a list of links and descriptions, or add the feed as a dynamic bookmark folder.

     support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/l…

     "December 2018: Firefox's built-in feed reader and Live Bookmarks have been removed, starting with Firefox version 64."

     @RL_Dane @mozilla

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     Alex (alex_02@infosec.exchange)'s status on Tuesday, 13-Feb-2024 14:53:06 JST Alex

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     @RL_Dane @mozilla firefox had a rss indicator? why did they remove it?

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     clacke (clacke@libranet.de)'s status on Tuesday, 13-Feb-2024 14:53:09 JST clacke

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     • Alex

     "RSS feed preview and live bookmarks are available only via add-ons"

     That's all it says in the release notes. I suppose it was an act of streamlining based on product vision or some metrics of what's being used.

     mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/64.0…

     @RL_Dane @alex_02 @mozilla

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     clacke (clacke@libranet.de)'s status on Tuesday, 13-Feb-2024 16:02:51 JST clacke

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     Firefox Quantum started in 2017, progressively replacing parts of Firefox with code from Servo. Perhaps Firefox 64 replaced some component that would force them to rewrite or remove feed support.
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     phiofx (phiofx@hachyderm.io)'s status on Tuesday, 13-Feb-2024 18:04:39 JST phiofx

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     @RL_Dane @mozilla maybe an "activitypub indicator" too? Eg to think what it means to visit a wordpress site that is federating content

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     Fabio Manganiello (fabio@manganiello.social)'s status on Wednesday, 14-Feb-2024 10:29:32 JST Fabio Manganiello

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     @RL_Dane I made an extension a while ago that does exactly that - it puts the feed icon back in the URL bar.

     Plus, it renders application/rss+xml, application/atom+xml and friends in a readable way when you open a feed URL in your browser - there was a time when browsers used to handle these content types, nowadays they just return the raw XML.

     It’d be interesting if the folks at @mozilla have more insights on why they decided to drop the feed icon indicator in the URL bar as well as the support for rendering feed mimetypes - and why the timing of these decisions approximately matched the timing when Chrome dropped their support for those features.

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     feld (feld@bikeshed.party)'s status on Wednesday, 14-Feb-2024 10:36:36 JST feld

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     • :gnu:+bonifartius 𒂼𒄄
     @bonifartius @RL_Dane @mozilla You can relax now she's not the CEO anymore
     
     https://blog.mozilla.org/en/mozilla/a-new-chapter-for-mozilla-laura-chambers-expanded-role/
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     :gnu:+bonifartius 𒂼𒄄 (bonifartius@qoto.org)'s status on Wednesday, 14-Feb-2024 10:36:37 JST :gnu:+bonifartius 𒂼𒄄

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     @RL_Dane @mozilla
     > greedy, controlling

     you mean baker?

     https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitchell_Baker#Negative_salary-performance_correlation

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     Bryan Whitehead (bryan@macaw.social)'s status on Thursday, 15-Feb-2024 13:34:18 JST Bryan Whitehead

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     @RL_Dane
     I’m sorry but all @mozilla heard is we want some new AI tools to be added…. 🤷🏼♂️

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     clay anderson 🇺🇦🇮🇱🔰🥑🌐🚲🗽☢️ (cshentrup@mastodon.social)'s status on Thursday, 15-Feb-2024 13:34:23 JST clay anderson 🇺🇦🇮🇱🔰🥑🌐🚲🗽☢️

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     @RL_Dane @mozilla

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     Thomas (tfb@functional.cafe)'s status on Thursday, 15-Feb-2024 13:34:30 JST Thomas

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     @RL_Dane Can you rephrase this as a request for an AI integration?

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     clacke (clacke@libranet.de)'s status on Thursday, 15-Feb-2024 13:34:31 JST clacke

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     • syzygy

     @RL_Dane jsonfeed.org/ is for real

     @syzygy @mozilla

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     syzygy (syzygy@gh0st.live)'s status on Thursday, 15-Feb-2024 13:34:32 JST syzygy

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     • þernia
     @pernia @RL_Dane @mozilla
     I HATE XML, I HATE XML!!
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     R. L. Dane :debian: :openbsd: (rl_dane@fosstodon.org)'s status on Thursday, 15-Feb-2024 13:34:32 JST R. L. Dane :debian: :openbsd:

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     • syzygy

     @syzygy @mozilla @pernia@cum.salon

     I mean, if you want to spearhead a new version of RSS based on JSON or heck, CSV, by all means!

     Until then... 😁

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     þernia (pernia@cum.salon)'s status on Thursday, 15-Feb-2024 13:34:34 JST þernia

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     @RL_Dane @mozilla rss is a virus full of security holes, don't use it
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     Felicitas Pojtinger 🌊 (pojntfx@mastodon.social)'s status on Thursday, 15-Feb-2024 13:34:54 JST Felicitas Pojtinger 🌊

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     @RL_Dane @mozilla It's particularly sad cause ... Chrome on mobile has it ("subscribe to this site") 😭

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     R. L. Dane :debian: :openbsd: (rl_dane@fosstodon.org)'s status on Thursday, 15-Feb-2024 13:34:58 JST R. L. Dane :debian: :openbsd:

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     • nawan 🇮🇩

     @nawanp @mozilla

     I think its very important to enhance discover ability, though. Firefox could have an option to forward the feed URL to your preferred RSS reader, including Thunderbird.

     If the browser doesn't indicate when RSS is available, it won't ever get recognized as the killer feature it really is.

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     nawan 🇮🇩 (nawanp@fe.disroot.org)'s status on Thursday, 15-Feb-2024 13:35:07 JST nawan 🇮🇩

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     @RL_Dane @mozilla Back when the Mozilla Suite split into Firefox and Thunderbird, RSS was no longer part of Firefox. I don't think adding it back to Firefox is a good choice because it was part of Thunderbird. Instead, I think improving RSS in Thunderbird like integrating the Firefox sync feature is the most realistic choice.
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     R. L. Dane :debian: :openbsd: (rl_dane@fosstodon.org)'s status on Thursday, 15-Feb-2024 15:28:53 JST R. L. Dane :debian: :openbsd:

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     • nawan 🇮🇩

     @nawanp @mozilla

     Also, while RSS reading might have been split off into Thunderbird, Firefox retained the ability to notify users of the presence of RSS feeds for a long time. Not sure exactly when it was removed, but it was definitely during the Firefox days.

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     clacke (clacke@libranet.de)'s status on Thursday, 15-Feb-2024 15:28:53 JST clacke

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     • nawan 🇮🇩

     Firefox v64 (2018) removed Live Bookmarks and the feed indicator.

     libranet.de/display/0b6b25a8-9…

     @RL_Dane @nawanp

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     nawan 🇮🇩 (nawanp@fe.disroot.org)'s status on Thursday, 15-Feb-2024 22:34:04 JST nawan 🇮🇩

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     • clacke
     @clacke @RL_Dane That was shortly after Mozilla bought Pocket 🤔
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