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    Alex Gleason (alex@gleasonator.com)'s status on Tuesday, 13-Feb-2024 07:37:10 JST Alex Gleason Alex Gleason
    • fenarinarsa :pokeball:
    They can't migrate to a new domain name. What a stupid protocol. It's so over, Mastobros.

    RT: https://shelter.moe/users/fenarinarsa/statuses/111920817094878540
    In conversation Tuesday, 13-Feb-2024 07:37:10 JST from gleasonator.com permalink

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      fenarinarsa :pokeball: (@fenarinarsa@shelter.moe)
      from fenarinarsa :pokeball:
      So a Mastodon instance (minor) is closing down because the registar is now owned by the talibans and they're shutting them down. I see people blaming the instance for getting a sketchy TLD (queer.af=Afghanistan) but the real issue there is that ActivityPub does NOT allow you to change your instance name once you created it. This has always been a huge hole in the protocol, and it really could happen to a lot of instances for many different reasons. https://www.404media.co/taliban-shuts-down-queer-af-domain-breaking-mastodon-instance/
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      Alex Gleason (alex@gleasonator.com)'s status on Tuesday, 13-Feb-2024 07:48:37 JST Alex Gleason Alex Gleason
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      • fenarinarsa :pokeball:
      @fenarinarsa "We are inclusive and progressive. Some of us are not even wearing turbans." - Afghanistan Ministry of Communications & IT
      In conversation Tuesday, 13-Feb-2024 07:48:37 JST permalink

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      Flick ?? (flick@spinster.xyz)'s status on Tuesday, 13-Feb-2024 07:55:03 JST Flick ?? Flick ??
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      @alex Is this not pretty much what NAS just did to become NA.S? Or was NAS not Mastodon?

      In conversation Tuesday, 13-Feb-2024 07:55:03 JST permalink
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      Alex Gleason (alex@gleasonator.com)'s status on Tuesday, 13-Feb-2024 07:55:28 JST Alex Gleason Alex Gleason
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      • Flick ??
      @Flick They didn't migrate. They opened a new server and all the users had to sign up again and rebuild their following relationships.
      In conversation Tuesday, 13-Feb-2024 07:55:28 JST permalink
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      Flick ?? (flick@spinster.xyz)'s status on Tuesday, 13-Feb-2024 08:18:05 JST Flick ?? Flick ??
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      @alex I see the distinction, but (from my POV) it was pretty seamless if the users used the migrate function: I didn’t even have to re-follow their new accounts. (Granted there are a couple of accounts I know are stuck in limbo.)

      This possibly says more about the relative tech abilities / level of commitment of the admins / users of the two servers?

      In conversation Tuesday, 13-Feb-2024 08:18:05 JST permalink
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      Alex Gleason (alex@gleasonator.com)'s status on Tuesday, 13-Feb-2024 08:18:05 JST Alex Gleason Alex Gleason
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      • Flick ??
      @Flick The "migrate" function is a tacked-on feature with very poor UX. You have to go through a rigorous process to do it, and it doesn't always work. You can't migrate your posts, just followers. The domain NEEDS to be online for it to work, so it won't work if the domain gets seized or you get banned. Typically the people who need to migrate most aren't able to do it. NoAgendaSocial was a best-case scenario, and they still lost a lot in the move.

      However I'm not denying this is a social problem. It's a social problem that can be solved through technical means, by letting users sign in with public-key cryptography, instead of having a single website control their account.
      In conversation Tuesday, 13-Feb-2024 08:18:05 JST permalink
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      Tassoman (tassoman@orwell.fun)'s status on Tuesday, 13-Feb-2024 08:23:36 JST Tassoman Tassoman
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      • fenarinarsa :pokeball:
      if the software fails, instance is fuckedup as if was talibanned
      In conversation Tuesday, 13-Feb-2024 08:23:36 JST permalink
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      Curtis Rock, SkD (curtis@social.teci.world)'s status on Tuesday, 13-Feb-2024 08:23:47 JST Curtis Rock, SkD Curtis Rock, SkD
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      • fenarinarsa :pokeball:
      @alex @fenarinarsa
      In conversation Tuesday, 13-Feb-2024 08:23:47 JST permalink

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      Doughnut Lollipop 【記録係】:blobfoxgooglymlem: likes this.
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      Alex Gleason (alex@gleasonator.com)'s status on Tuesday, 13-Feb-2024 08:30:23 JST Alex Gleason Alex Gleason
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      • fenarinarsa :pokeball:
      • Lux
      @lucas @fenarinarsa Seems like it's working fine... but I agree with you that post isn't going through. I'm trying to make it happen and it refuses. So I think it may be something about the post itself. 🤔
      In conversation Tuesday, 13-Feb-2024 08:30:23 JST permalink
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      Lux (lucas@toot.coinfund.app)'s status on Tuesday, 13-Feb-2024 08:30:24 JST Lux Lux
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      • fenarinarsa :pokeball:

      @alex @fenarinarsa Hmm i think Mostr might be slightly broken again? I replied from the Nostr side with this note: note172qlqwq49knfr3cw7w4yhnlztlur3hshewk2d99x6l6y8gvnwl9sdujaqp

      But I don't see that reply when viewing from the Mastodon side.

      In conversation Tuesday, 13-Feb-2024 08:30:24 JST permalink
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      Alex Gleason (alex@gleasonator.com)'s status on Tuesday, 13-Feb-2024 08:38:51 JST Alex Gleason Alex Gleason
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      • fenarinarsa :pokeball:
      • Lux
      @lucas @fenarinarsa I can force-federate it fine, but the bridge didn't deliver it in the first place: https://gleasonator.com/@d49a9023a21dba1b3c8306ca369bf3243d8b44b8f0b6d1196607f7b0990fa8df@mostr.pub/posts/Aep014shvBeiYvtG4m
      In conversation Tuesday, 13-Feb-2024 08:38:51 JST permalink

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      1. Domain not in remote thumbnail source whitelist: proxy.gleasonator.com
        lucas (@d49a9023a21dba1b3c8306ca369bf3243d8b44b8f0b6d1196607f7b0990fa8df@mostr.pub)
        @alex @fenarinarsa Love how the same people on queer.af likely championed around the Taliban equivalent aka Hamas, of which they'd most certainly be thrown off roofs. WhY wOuLd ThEy Do ThIs To Us?!
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      Alex Gleason (alex@gleasonator.com)'s status on Tuesday, 13-Feb-2024 09:51:16 JST Alex Gleason Alex Gleason
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      • Flick ??
      • Sir HarvHat ☕♫
      @harvhat @Flick Nostr
      In conversation Tuesday, 13-Feb-2024 09:51:16 JST permalink
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      Sir HarvHat ☕♫ (harvhat@noauthority.social)'s status on Tuesday, 13-Feb-2024 09:51:21 JST Sir HarvHat ☕♫ Sir HarvHat ☕♫
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      • Flick ??

      @alex @Flick

      If the domain gets seized you're pretty much out of luck with many (any?) different protocols AFAIK. Migration procedures for just about anything will require both the old and the new to be online at the same time. Correct me if you know of a protocol that has user submitted data and can handle that situation.

      In conversation Tuesday, 13-Feb-2024 09:51:21 JST permalink
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      Alex Gleason (alex@gleasonator.com)'s status on Tuesday, 13-Feb-2024 14:46:17 JST Alex Gleason Alex Gleason
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      • Flick ??
      • dragestil
      @dragestil @Flick It would cause so many unwanted notifications over a prolonged period. People would defederate you over it.
      In conversation Tuesday, 13-Feb-2024 14:46:17 JST permalink
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      dragestil (dragestil@hostux.social)'s status on Tuesday, 13-Feb-2024 14:46:18 JST dragestil dragestil
      in reply to
      • Flick ??

      @alex is it possible to migrate the posts by exporting and importing?

      @Flick

      In conversation Tuesday, 13-Feb-2024 14:46:18 JST permalink
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      cjd (cjd@pkteerium.xyz)'s status on Tuesday, 13-Feb-2024 23:15:02 JST cjd cjd
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      • cjd
      • fenarinarsa :pokeball:
      What I actually find amusing about that is there's literally no way to bring the website into compliance with Afghani law, the domain name itself IS the violation.
      In conversation Tuesday, 13-Feb-2024 23:15:02 JST permalink
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      cjd (cjd@pkteerium.xyz)'s status on Tuesday, 13-Feb-2024 23:15:03 JST cjd cjd
      in reply to
      • fenarinarsa :pokeball:
      lol

      > Register Afghani domain name, hmm complex legal jurisdiction
      > Afghanistan is now Taliban, wonder what laws will change...
      > Homosexuality now illegal 👀
      > Domain you registered is queer.af 🤦♂️
      In conversation Tuesday, 13-Feb-2024 23:15:03 JST permalink

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      1. Domain not in remote thumbnail source whitelist: queer.af
        queer.af
        queer.af, your cosy queer space queer.af is a mastodon instance for those who are queer or queer-adjacent who would like a more pleasant social media experience.
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      Alex Gleason (alex@gleasonator.com)'s status on Tuesday, 13-Feb-2024 23:16:39 JST Alex Gleason Alex Gleason
      in reply to
      • Flick ??
      • dragestil
      @dragestil @Flick It's not worth the effort at that point
      In conversation Tuesday, 13-Feb-2024 23:16:39 JST permalink
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      dragestil (dragestil@hostux.social)'s status on Tuesday, 13-Feb-2024 23:16:41 JST dragestil dragestil
      in reply to
      • Flick ??

      @alex even if only original posts that do not mention anyone are imported?
      @Flick

      In conversation Tuesday, 13-Feb-2024 23:16:41 JST permalink

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