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   Jan Wildeboer 😷:krulorange: (jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.net)'s status on Sunday, 11-Feb-2024 06:09:18 JST Jan Wildeboer 😷:krulorange:

   I just hope that Tucker Carlson got refused re-entry to the US. #SarcasmButOnlyHalf

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     Rui Seabra (ruiseabra@mastodon.social)'s status on Sunday, 11-Feb-2024 06:09:17 JST Rui Seabra

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     @jwildeboer
     Why? He wanted to interview both Putin and Zelenski, one answered.

     Also, the Putin interview is very interesting, unless people keep wanting to pretend this all happened from nothing (note: nothing Putin says it's new).

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     Rui Seabra (ruiseabra@mastodon.social)'s status on Sunday, 11-Feb-2024 08:51:14 JST Rui Seabra

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     I'm not defending an asshole talking to an asshole. There are lots of assholes begging for world war three and I oppose all of them. You're making Putin proud by being so pro conflict and war, anti democracy, and pro censorship that you'd have such an extreme reaction, even to a friend, but I suppose the mere threat of blocking means you don't care about any of that.

     #depressed

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     Jan Wildeboer 😷:krulorange: (jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.net)'s status on Sunday, 11-Feb-2024 08:51:16 JST Jan Wildeboer 😷:krulorange:

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     • Rui Seabra

     @RuiSeabra You are close to being blocked for defending an asshole talking to an asshole while a smart person (Zelensky) understood the trap and decided that „fuck off“ is the only acceptable answer.

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     Rui Seabra (ruiseabra@mastodon.social)'s status on Sunday, 11-Feb-2024 09:12:04 JST Rui Seabra

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     @jwildeboer this little corner of the world suffers deeply whenever big events happen in Europe, or all the way across the Atlantic ocean, don't think mere geographical distance means a lot. But if you really worry about it, one thing Putin flat out declared is he's not interested in global war, nor geographical expansion. Who is escalating? I have to be able to see beyond the propaganda on both sides, they only wish to keep us separated and infighting so they can keep their global profits up.

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     Jan Wildeboer 😷:krulorange: (jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.net)'s status on Sunday, 11-Feb-2024 09:12:05 JST Jan Wildeboer 😷:krulorange:

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     • Rui Seabra

     @RuiSeabra You’re far away from the threat of a Russian attack. I am not. You mistake a US bigot that spreads Russian propaganda with a journalist that actually asks critical questions. That’s your decision. It’s my decision to focus on more important things and keep my timeline focused that way.

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     Michal Kohutek (tylnesh@fosstodon.org)'s status on Sunday, 11-Feb-2024 20:20:17 JST Michal Kohutek

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     • Rui Seabra

     @RuiSeabra @jwildeboer giving platform to a war-mongering wannabe Hitler is being pro-war, not isolating the aasshole and not giving him further opportunities to spread propaganda and false reasoning for his own expansionist tendencies. Please educate yourself on Putin’s war in Chechnya, Georgia and Nagorno-Karabach. Putins attempts at invading neighboring countries is nothing new. Just the response of the West came too late to stop Russian aggression.

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     Rui Seabra (ruiseabra@mastodon.social)'s status on Sunday, 11-Feb-2024 20:20:17 JST Rui Seabra

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     • Michal Kohutek

     @tylnesh You seem to be unaware of several facts Putin's using as an excuse for his asshole aggression, that should they not happen and many of those conflicts would not happen. Because it's financially very lucrative for some big companies and high ranking politicians, horrible things and people have been tolerated while doing horrible things to many people. When you provoke a bully, he doesn't go away, he escalates.

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     Michal Kohutek (tylnesh@fosstodon.org)'s status on Sunday, 11-Feb-2024 20:43:53 JST Michal Kohutek

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     • Rui Seabra
     • Michal Kohutek

     @RuiSeabra @tylnesh please do educate me, it’s not like I spent my whole live living in a country filled with Russian influence and propaganda.

     Also, it’s not like Russia to fabricate reasons based on half truths and revisionist history. Maybe look up their current opinion on the invasion of Czechoslovakia in 1968.

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     Rui Seabra (ruiseabra@mastodon.social)'s status on Sunday, 11-Feb-2024 20:43:53 JST Rui Seabra

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     • Michal Kohutek

     @tylnesh All world powers lie, specially with truth, to increase their power. That you seem to think there's only one evil side in this conflict is a good enough signal that you have been quite well programmed by propaganda. To only use recent events, I think you should learn about "Fuck the EU"... https://www.theguardian.com/world/video/2014/feb/07/eu-us-diplomat-victoria-nuland-phonecall-leaked-video

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     Rui Seabra (ruiseabra@mastodon.social)'s status on Sunday, 11-Feb-2024 20:47:10 JST Rui Seabra

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     • Michal Kohutek

     @tylnesh oh my... An example from 2008...

     You could only read the summary of what that US ambassador warns about...

     https://wikileaks.org/plusd/cables/08MOSCOW265_a.html

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     Michal Kohutek (tylnesh@fosstodon.org)'s status on Sunday, 11-Feb-2024 20:47:11 JST Michal Kohutek

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     • Rui Seabra
     • Michal Kohutek

     @RuiSeabra @tylnesh Also, you have two types of bullies - bulls and lions. Bulls attack when they feel threatened by you. Lions attack when they don’t. Russia is a lion (sickly and perverted, but a lion nonetheless). Russia has done the same thing over and over - attack neighborhing countries with fabricated reasons and nobody responded. With each annexed territory, they figured they can get more. Until Ukraine, nobody did a damn and that resulted in our current situation.

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     Michal Kohutek (tylnesh@fosstodon.org)'s status on Sunday, 11-Feb-2024 20:48:18 JST Michal Kohutek

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     • Rui Seabra
     • Michal Kohutek

     @RuiSeabra @tylnesh great use of whataboutism. You obviously fell for Russian tactic number one. Even in my country there was a saying whenever somebody criticized the regime - “… at least we don’t beat up black people”

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     Rui Seabra (ruiseabra@mastodon.social)'s status on Sunday, 11-Feb-2024 20:48:18 JST Rui Seabra

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     • Michal Kohutek

     @tylnesh That is your choice of interpretation. Sadly not at all what I said.

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     Rui Seabra (ruiseabra@mastodon.social)'s status on Sunday, 11-Feb-2024 20:48:50 JST Rui Seabra

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     • Michal Kohutek

     @tylnesh where did I say you like the US? I'm confused. Are you replying to other people and confusing replies?

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     Michal Kohutek (tylnesh@fosstodon.org)'s status on Sunday, 11-Feb-2024 20:48:51 JST Michal Kohutek

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     • Rui Seabra
     • Michal Kohutek

     @RuiSeabra @tylnesh also, where did you get that insane idea that I like the US? But bringing in US to a comment thread about war in Ukraine is a sign that you fell for the lies spread about the war. Ukraine has not started as a proxy war between US and Russia.

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     Rui Seabra (ruiseabra@mastodon.social)'s status on Sunday, 11-Feb-2024 20:51:31 JST Rui Seabra

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     • Michal Kohutek

     @tylnesh USA and Russia are both totally at the root of this conflict, the USA have been poking the russian hornet nest for years...

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     Rui Seabra (ruiseabra@mastodon.social)'s status on Sunday, 11-Feb-2024 20:52:55 JST Rui Seabra

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     • Michal Kohutek

     @tylnesh hms... except the real world is not exactly as simple as that, now, is it? It would be nice, but sadly it's not. And now here we are.

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     Michal Kohutek (tylnesh@fosstodon.org)'s status on Sunday, 11-Feb-2024 20:52:56 JST Michal Kohutek

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     @RuiSeabra @tylnesh again, who gives a flying fuck about all this? If Ukraine wants to join NATO and NATO countries agree, then there’s all there is to it. It is a sovereign country and no matter “how threatened” Russia feels, it doesn’t give the any right to do anything about it. Also, it’s funny to hear how Russia is afraid of NATO aggression since they withdrew most of their forces from the border with actual NATO countries and moved them to the front in Ukraine.

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     Rui Seabra (ruiseabra@mastodon.social)'s status on Sunday, 11-Feb-2024 20:58:27 JST Rui Seabra

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     • Michal Kohutek

     @tylnesh It's not a rant, I'm definitely not ranting. Most of what you've said to me is fueled by USA propaganda, and you seem to refuse to even acknowledge how there has been provocation promoted from the USA for many years (surely there's evidence of that from 2008 and 2014 in both links I placed). It's your choice to ignore them. I'm not on a mission to convince anyone, I'm just commenting on what I've read from reputable sources independent from both these mega powers.

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     Michal Kohutek (tylnesh@fosstodon.org)'s status on Sunday, 11-Feb-2024 20:58:28 JST Michal Kohutek

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     • Rui Seabra
     • Michal Kohutek

     @RuiSeabra @tylnesh when I argue about the war in Ukraine and you bring up unrelated rant about lying superpowers with a link about the US. War in Ukraine was an unprovoked act of imperialist aggression by the Russia. Anything else you claim is fueled by Russian propaganda

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     Michal Kohutek (tylnesh@fosstodon.org)'s status on Sunday, 11-Feb-2024 21:13:08 JST Michal Kohutek

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     @RuiSeabra @tylnesh like I said, I despise a lot of what the US has been doing, and I have no illusions about their foreign policy. The thing is, even if the US embassy built up a statue of Putin getting fisted by rainbow colored clowns on the Russia-Ukraine border, that gives Russia exactly 0 reasons for invading. Especially since Russia was one of the countries that were guaranteeing the sovereignty of Ukraine. Anyway,since all you do is spread moral relativism, it’s a dead end

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     Rui Seabra (ruiseabra@mastodon.social)'s status on Sunday, 11-Feb-2024 21:13:08 JST Rui Seabra

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     • Michal Kohutek

     @tylnesh I'm not saying they were right in having done this despicable invasion, just that it didn't come from thin air, and that had they not have been provoked might not even have happened. US+EU were all well aware how Russia would perceive NATO expansion, which is not merely signing a document, it includes hosting military bases. I wouldn't feel comfortable at all if my next door neighbor was hoarding guns, much less if I had had decades of cold war conflict previously.

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     Rui Seabra (ruiseabra@mastodon.social)'s status on Sunday, 11-Feb-2024 21:36:56 JST Rui Seabra

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     • Michal Kohutek

     @tylnesh https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enlargement_of_NATO#Summary_Table_and_Map vs https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Territorial_evolution_of_Russia#Russian_Federation doesn't seem to sustain your NATO expansion comment, though.

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     Michal Kohutek (tylnesh@fosstodon.org)'s status on Sunday, 11-Feb-2024 21:36:57 JST Michal Kohutek

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     • Rui Seabra

     @RuiSeabra You seem to have forgotten that Russia and NATO were allies at the beginning of the millennium, with Russia actually wanting to join NATO. Also, NATO has only expanded once Russia started annexing countries left and right. Btw, even if Russia was able to conquer Ukraine, how would that help their NATO situation? My country, Slovakia is part of NATO, so is Poland and Hungary. If they were worried about bordering NATO, getting closer to three NATO countries is stupid.

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     Rui Seabra (ruiseabra@mastodon.social)'s status on Monday, 12-Feb-2024 01:10:08 JST Rui Seabra

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     • Michal Kohutek

     @tylnesh it seems more than allies, back then, apparently Russia even asked whether NATO would welcome a join request, and were just denied (putin dixit, so take it with a huge grain of salt but... quite a revelation).

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     Michal Kohutek (tylnesh@fosstodon.org)'s status on Monday, 12-Feb-2024 01:21:51 JST Michal Kohutek

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     • Rui Seabra
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     @RuiSeabra @tylnesh from you own link. Like I said, I am a Slovak national and my family were so happy that we joined NATO, because they were worried about increasing Russian influence. Especially since we were occupied for decades by our “elder brother” nation, that claimed to protect us from the western aggression. When we tried to build a communist society with a more democratic values back in the 1968, they came in with tanks and stayed here until the fall of the USSR.

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     Rui Seabra (ruiseabra@mastodon.social)'s status on Monday, 12-Feb-2024 01:21:51 JST Rui Seabra

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     • Michal Kohutek

     @tylnesh one or two phrases from your selection, again, the warning that expansion would be viewed as a threat... and it's not the only reference. It's also not a good argument to say one wants protection from bully B because he fights bully A. I'd say refuse all them bullies. Maybe what's really necessary is for such big states to be broken down into smaller states (similar to anti-trust), that can't bully or invade other countries as easily.

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     Rui Seabra (ruiseabra@mastodon.social)'s status on Monday, 12-Feb-2024 03:29:19 JST Rui Seabra

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     • Michal Kohutek

     @tylnesh er... I mean... you know why it was created, right? :) They say it themselves... https://history.state.gov/milestones/1945-1952/nato «The North Atlantic Treaty Organization was created in 1949 by the United States, Canada, and several Western European nations to provide collective security against the Soviet Union.»

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     Michal Kohutek (tylnesh@fosstodon.org)'s status on Monday, 12-Feb-2024 03:29:20 JST Michal Kohutek

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     • Rui Seabra
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     @RuiSeabra @tylnesh your argument breaks down completely if you consider NATO an alliance of independent like minded countries (which it is) and not a counterpart to Russia. If you cannot consider it as such, there is nothing else to talk about.

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     Michal Kohutek (tylnesh@fosstodon.org)'s status on Monday, 12-Feb-2024 07:28:07 JST Michal Kohutek

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     @RuiSeabra @tylnesh soviet union, not russia. Also, organizations change their goals as time passes.

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     Rui Seabra (ruiseabra@mastodon.social)'s status on Monday, 12-Feb-2024 07:28:07 JST Rui Seabra

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     • Michal Kohutek

     @tylnesh Come on, you know that's just nit-picking... :)