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   Ryan Wild (wild1145@universeodon.com)'s status on Sunday, 11-Feb-2024 05:25:58 JST Ryan Wild

   • Oliphantasmal Force
   • Jeffrey Phillips Freeman
   • #ArtFed

   @freemo @BobMastodon @oliphant No, I'm stating that your assumption that this list had anything to do with our users is, nonsense.

   The list was imported for the first time around 2 weeks ago, long long after since we saw drops in user counts here, and across a lot of servers.

   I'm stating that we've seen an increase in CSAM and similar content being shared on servers, all of which happened to be on the minimum block list from Oliphant which I use on the other servers without issues.

   I would ask you once again, stop spouting and sharing bullshit based on your own made up nonsense.

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     Jeffrey Phillips Freeman (freemo@mastodon.acm.org)'s status on Sunday, 11-Feb-2024 05:25:57 JST Jeffrey Phillips Freeman

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     • Oliphantasmal Force
     • #ArtFed

     @wild1145

     Even if you plan to remove non-CSAM servers from the list after the fact, the damage is done. All those follows erased and needs to be re-formed inconveniencing hundreds of thousands of users and defaming servers all because your too lazy to do due diligence on your block list.

     Yes my criticism is completely valid even if we accept your excuse on face valid, your choice was negligent and abusive to your own community and the wider fediverse community.

     @BobMastodon @oliphant

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     Jeffrey Phillips Freeman (freemo@mastodon.acm.org)'s status on Sunday, 11-Feb-2024 05:25:58 JST Jeffrey Phillips Freeman

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     • Oliphantasmal Force
     • #ArtFed

     @wild1145

     Let me be quite clear, What i thin is the reason is your negligent moderation practices a a whole. What I am saying is the case is for 6+ months you have been negligent and abusive (not doing due diligence caring more about popular opinion than what is right) to curate your block list, including from your own users.

     You have been so negligent in your duties your user base has been running for the hills. This list is the last bad move.

     @BobMastodon @oliphant

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     Jeffrey Phillips Freeman (freemo@mastodon.acm.org)'s status on Sunday, 11-Feb-2024 05:25:58 JST Jeffrey Phillips Freeman

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     • Oliphantasmal Force
     • #ArtFed

     @wild1145

     And your response is a demonstration of that. Instead of **manually** and selectively blocking CSAM from the oliphant list you mass imported **abusively** blocking tons of innocent servers out of laziness. The fact that have some legitimate CSAM on their list is not an excuse for your lazy and abusive mass importing of list known to be abusive in its own right, full stop.

     @BobMastodon @oliphant

     🎓 Doc Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 repeated this.
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     Jeffrey Phillips Freeman (freemo@mastodon.acm.org)'s status on Sunday, 11-Feb-2024 05:35:37 JST Jeffrey Phillips Freeman

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     @wild1145

     I mean, for starters I have an account there, so yea I know. Second all the people coming forward calling you out about your abusive moderation is another clue.

     I am not talking out of my ass, everything I said I backed up with data (charts) and actual accounts from your users as they are coming forward.

     Make up whatever excuses you want, the community is exposing you as we speak... Your user count speaks for itself.

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     Ryan Wild (wild1145@universeodon.com)'s status on Sunday, 11-Feb-2024 05:35:38 JST Ryan Wild

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     • Jeffrey Phillips Freeman

     @freemo But again, you have absolutely fuck all idea about this server, how I run things or what it's like being a member of this community, and yet you've decided you are the best placed to try to judge me based on very very little insight and data that you could be bothered to scrape together.

     If you don't like how I moderate, you have no need to interact with me or my server. I've yet to have any issues outside of a single query (Which is where you took the original post I made about using the block list) with regards to the block list, and outside of routine appeals from users where they disagree with our moderation practice, have had no enquiries or issues raised with me or my team about how we moderate.

     🎓 Doc Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 repeated this.
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     Ryan Wild (wild1145@universeodon.com)'s status on Sunday, 11-Feb-2024 05:35:39 JST Ryan Wild

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     • Jeffrey Phillips Freeman

     @freemo The actual reality (Again which would have been clear to you if you'd taken more than 10 seconds to spot my original post and start throwing shit in my direction for how I choose to moderate, despite having nothing to do with my server or it's moderation yourself), you'd have seen that when I took over we had major stability and scaling issues trying to migrate Universeodon away from the old owners hardware and onto the infrastructure I own and had provisioned. We had long periods where we couldn't handle the load, and are still to this date having some issues we haven't been able to resolve with the way the instance is setup and configured, and a lot of users gave up because their apps wouldn't load or content wouldn't load fast enough compared to what they expect.

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     Ryan Wild (wild1145@universeodon.com)'s status on Sunday, 11-Feb-2024 05:35:40 JST Ryan Wild

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     • Jeffrey Phillips Freeman

     @freemo You are welcome to moderate your server in any way you see fit, but you continue to make baseless assumptions and spout them as fact. Which list(s) I choose to use to help me and my team moderate effectively is entirely my choice.

     Just because the data you are seeing in any way aligns does not mean it is the root cause or a contributing factor. The harsh reality is I and my team do not have time to manually review every single server that ever interacts with us, nor do we have capacity to deal with the significant increase in reports from instances on the block lists we import.

     You can have your issues with the list, and by all means take that up with the folks that create it, your beef seems to be entirely with .art and if you had bothered to actually look into my past interactions and my past moderation stances from both of my instances, you'd see I have no time for the bullshit .art pulls either and I have in no way ever endorsed them.