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    Jeff Jarvis (jeffjarvis@mastodon.social)'s status on Saturday, 10-Feb-2024 01:24:28 JST Jeff Jarvis Jeff Jarvis
    • Mike Masnick ✅

    Bluesky Opens Up -- why @mmasnick (and I) are excited.
    https://www.techdirt.com/2024/02/06/bluesky-opens-up/ via @Techdirt

    In conversation Saturday, 10-Feb-2024 01:24:28 JST from mastodon.social permalink

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      Beeks (beeks@mstdn.party)'s status on Saturday, 10-Feb-2024 01:24:27 JST Beeks Beeks
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      • Mike Masnick ✅

      @jeffjarvis @mmasnick
      I don't understand why people treat Bluesky like it is immune to enshittification, or in fact like enshittification isn't its intended end point. Do I need to understand tech stuff to get it? Are people just resigned to having ads shoved down their throats 24/7 so they don't care? What am I missing?

      In conversation Saturday, 10-Feb-2024 01:24:27 JST permalink
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      Mike Masnick ✅ (mmasnick@mastodon.social)'s status on Saturday, 10-Feb-2024 01:24:27 JST Mike Masnick ✅ Mike Masnick ✅
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      @Beeks @jeffjarvis nothing is immune to enshittification. But it is designed to be resistent to enshittification. The main element of enshittification is the lock-in. The inability to leave. Bluesky is designed to let you leave.

      And, hopefully, the knowledge that you can leave creates incentives for Bluesky the company, not to enshittify, because if it does, people will leave.

      In conversation Saturday, 10-Feb-2024 01:24:27 JST permalink
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      jz.tusk (jztusk@mastodon.social)'s status on Saturday, 10-Feb-2024 02:02:24 JST jz.tusk jz.tusk
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      • Beeks

      @mmasnick @Beeks @jeffjarvis

      "Bluesky is designed to let you leave."

      Is it? I haven't done a deep dive, but the impression I've gotten is that the text you create is yours and moveable, the "indexers" (I'm sure I'm using the wrong term there) will require so much computing power that it will probably be monopolized. And what good are our scribblings if no-one can find them and read them?

      In conversation Saturday, 10-Feb-2024 02:02:24 JST permalink
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      Ben Foote (benpocalypse@mastodon.social)'s status on Saturday, 10-Feb-2024 06:41:02 JST Ben Foote Ben Foote
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      • Beeks

      @mmasnick @Beeks @jeffjarvis I mean...enshittification is just peak capitalism. Maximizing shareholder value.

      In conversation Saturday, 10-Feb-2024 06:41:02 JST permalink
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      Beeks (beeks@mstdn.party)'s status on Saturday, 10-Feb-2024 11:14:36 JST Beeks Beeks
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      • Mike Masnick ✅

      @mmasnick @jeffjarvis ahh, I hadn't thought about that (the tech bit I was missing.)
      So in theory if I had a big Bluesky account and wanted to bounce, I could click a few buttons and transfer it all to Mastodon dot notBluesky and be free. Hmm, that is a solid lever against enshittification. Not sure I'll try it still, but I do understand the fascination now and why it is popular. Thanks!

      In conversation Saturday, 10-Feb-2024 11:14:36 JST permalink
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      Mike Masnick ✅ (mmasnick@mastodon.social)'s status on Saturday, 10-Feb-2024 11:14:36 JST Mike Masnick ✅ Mike Masnick ✅
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      • Beeks

      @Beeks @jeffjarvis that's the idea. And, unlike with Mastodon, all your info (content) comes with you under the ATProto model.

      Of course, we still need to see how it works in practice.

      In conversation Saturday, 10-Feb-2024 11:14:36 JST permalink

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