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   Peter Gleick (petergleick@fediscience.org)'s status on Friday, 09-Feb-2024 19:08:53 JST Peter Gleick

   • Michael E. Mann :verified:

   Excellent news. My friend and climate science colleague Michael Mann, attacked and defamed for years, has won his defamation court case against two repeat, unrepentent, and nasty climate deniers.
   @MichaelEMann

   https://www.desmog.com/2024/02/08/michael-mann-wins-defamation-trial-climate-deniers-rand-simberg-mark-steyn/

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     JimmyB (he/him) (jimmyb@mas.to)'s status on Friday, 09-Feb-2024 19:08:56 JST JimmyB (he/him)

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     • Michael E. Mann :verified:

     @petergleick

     Delighted - and great result.

     I don't believe this is true though:

     "As most know today, Mann’s hockey stick graph, which he first created in 1998 with scientists Raymond Bradley and Malcolm Hughes, challenged the conventional wisdom at the time that climate change was a natural phenomenon "

     I studied Geogrpahy 1990-94 and anthropomorphic climate change was so widely accepted that lecturers complained they couldn't get funding if they didn't include it.

     @MichaelEMann

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     clacke (clacke@libranet.de)'s status on Friday, 09-Feb-2024 19:08:58 JST clacke

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     • JimmyB (he/him)
     • Michael E. Mann :verified:

     @JimmyB Conventional wisdom among politicians, perhaps.

     @MichaelEMann @petergleick

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     clacke (clacke@libranet.de)'s status on Friday, 09-Feb-2024 19:50:51 JST clacke

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     • JimmyB (he/him)
     • Michael E. Mann :verified:

     @JimmyB Yes, I'm assuming a US context. In Sweden all parties across the spectrum accepted the Brundtland Report (1987) and only disagreed on the scale and nature of governmental involvement, not the facts.

     All households received "The Natural Step" in the mail, a brochure and a cassette tape explaining the greenhouse effect and urging action.

     @MichaelEMann @petergleick

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     JimmyB (he/him) (jimmyb@mas.to)'s status on Friday, 09-Feb-2024 19:50:52 JST JimmyB (he/him)

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     • Michael E. Mann :verified:

     @clacke

     Maybe in the US where the fossil fuel lobby has so much impact, but in the 1990s in the UK I think both parties largely accepted the premise. Those who opposed it - Norman Tebbit I think? - were fringe and considered a bit loony. That changed later of course.

     @MichaelEMann @petergleick