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    Kevin Beaumont (gossithedog@cyberplace.social)'s status on Thursday, 08-Feb-2024 02:25:36 JST Kevin Beaumont Kevin Beaumont
    • BleepingComputer

    Kudos to @BleepingComputer for doing actual journalism.

    Fortinet also declined to comment to me.

    It's a completely made up story, which is now being circulated as Russian propaganda.
    https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/the-unlikely-3-million-electric-toothbrush-ddos-attack/

    In conversation about a year ago from cyberplace.social permalink

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    1. Domain not in remote thumbnail source whitelist: www.bleepstatic.com
      The unlikely 3 million electric toothbrush DDoS attack
      from @BleepinComputer
      A widely reported story that 3 million electric toothbrushes were hacked with malware to conduct distributed denial of service (DDoS) attacks is likely a hypothetical scenario instead of an actual attack.
    • tinydoctor, Eugen Rochko and Annika Backstrom repeated this.
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      PhreakByte (nieldk@infosec.exchange)'s status on Thursday, 08-Feb-2024 03:18:17 JST PhreakByte PhreakByte
      in reply to
      • Jer

      @Jer @GossiTheDog yeah, well, there is this (re WiFi) https://www.amazon.com/Oral-B-Replenishment-Electric-Toothbrush-Brushing/dp/B0831JZBL4

      In conversation about a year ago permalink

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      1. Domain not in remote thumbnail source whitelist: aax-us-iad.amazon.com
        Amazon.com: Oral-B Electric Toothbrush, Alexa Built-In, Amazon Dash Replenishment Enabled, White, Smart Brushing System : Health & Household
        Amazon.com: Oral-B Electric Toothbrush, Alexa Built-In, Amazon Dash Replenishment Enabled, White, Smart Brushing System : Health & Household
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      Jer (jer@chirp.enworld.org)'s status on Thursday, 08-Feb-2024 03:18:18 JST Jer Jer
      in reply to

      @GossiTheDog

      "completely made up" makes me wonder if this is some AI journalism that escaped into the wild without fact checking. But Stefan Züger does seem to be a real person so maybe not?

      (Thanks for being on top of this - honestly when I saw the story I wondered what toothbrush company was putting wifi into their toothbrushes instead of bluetooth. And why would they do that? Should have realized it was nonsense.)

      In conversation about a year ago permalink
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      Kevin Beaumont (gossithedog@cyberplace.social)'s status on Thursday, 08-Feb-2024 07:52:39 JST Kevin Beaumont Kevin Beaumont
      in reply to

      Fortigate have issued me a statement. The toothbrush story is completely made up.

      In conversation about a year ago permalink

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      Kevin Beaumont (gossithedog@cyberplace.social)'s status on Thursday, 08-Feb-2024 07:54:57 JST Kevin Beaumont Kevin Beaumont
      in reply to

      I’d like to thank all the Mastodon reply guys in the thread who decided the story was real, btw, based on vibes.

      In conversation about a year ago permalink
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      tinydoctor (tinydoctor@mstdn.social)'s status on Thursday, 08-Feb-2024 07:56:55 JST tinydoctor tinydoctor
      in reply to

      @GossiTheDog You’re welcome.

      In conversation about a year ago permalink
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      Kensan (kensan@mastodon.social)'s status on Thursday, 08-Feb-2024 09:04:33 JST Kensan Kensan
      in reply to

      @GossiTheDog “due to translations”? The original reporting in German makes that claim already. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ https://mastodon.social/@Kensan/111888828676462440

      In conversation about a year ago permalink

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        Kensan (@Kensan@mastodon.social)
        from Kensan
        @GossiTheDog@cyberplace.social This article says: “Gemäss Stefan Züger von Fortinet ist genau dies einer Schweizer Firma passiert.” Which basically means “according to Stefan Züger (Fortinet), exactly this happened to a Swiss company”. 1) The Swiss company which has supposedly been DDoS’ed by the Toothbrushes is not named 2) Fortinet Switzerland, in the form of Züger, provides no other info 3) Their recommendation No. 2 is “Use Antivirus wherever possible” ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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      Kensan (kensan@mastodon.social)'s status on Thursday, 08-Feb-2024 09:09:17 JST Kensan Kensan

      @GossiTheDog The article(s) have been maming the rounds through Swiss media the past week where everyone copied everbody else. It looked like it was good engagement until its reach got too wide. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

      In conversation about a year ago permalink
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      Kevin Beaumont (gossithedog@cyberplace.social)'s status on Thursday, 08-Feb-2024 09:32:06 JST Kevin Beaumont Kevin Beaumont
      in reply to

      Probably the best reply on one of the stories so far.

      In conversation about a year ago permalink

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      Kevin Beaumont (gossithedog@cyberplace.social)'s status on Thursday, 08-Feb-2024 09:57:22 JST Kevin Beaumont Kevin Beaumont
      in reply to

      It’s now made it to YouTubers 🤣 who are doing better journalism and threat intel than.. journalists and threat intel. https://youtu.be/sVpe0ZEZ1Ho

      In conversation about a year ago permalink

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      1. Did a Massive Toothbrush DDOS Just Happen?
        from SomeOrdinaryGamers
        Hello guys and gals, it's me Mutahar again! This time we take a look at what appears to be a story that involves three million smart toothbrushes allegedly b...
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      Edgar Whelp (edgarwhelp@cyberplace.social)'s status on Thursday, 08-Feb-2024 15:56:06 JST Edgar Whelp Edgar Whelp
      in reply to

      @GossiTheDog can you comment on the “$25M transferred because of deepfake” story from earlier this week? Because that just screams out as being bullshit.

      In conversation about a year ago permalink
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      Kevin Beaumont (gossithedog@cyberplace.social)'s status on Thursday, 08-Feb-2024 20:32:38 JST Kevin Beaumont Kevin Beaumont
      in reply to

      The newspaper that had the first article have updated the story and doubled down:

      “The article originally said that the case "really happened like that."
      This information came from the company Fortinet, which had described the case as real in the interview and proofread the article before publication. Fortinet is now correcting this statement and calling it a "hypothetical scenario". https://www.luzernerzeitung.ch/wirtschaft/kriminalitaet-die-zahnbuersten-greifen-an-das-sind-die-aktuellen-cybergefahren-und-so-koennen-sie-sich-schuetzen-ld.2569480

      In conversation about a year ago permalink

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      2. Domain not in remote thumbnail source whitelist: img.chmedia.ch
        Cybergefahren: So schützen Sie sich
        from Ann-Kathrin Amstutz
        Die Zahl der Angriffe erreicht unvorstellbare Höhen, wie neue Daten der Cybersicherheitsfirma Fortinet zeigen. Welche Entwicklungen Sorgen bereiten und warum es trotzdem Anlass zur Zuversicht gibt.
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      Kevin Beaumont (gossithedog@cyberplace.social)'s status on Thursday, 08-Feb-2024 20:55:01 JST Kevin Beaumont Kevin Beaumont
      in reply to

      It gets worse - the original publication has published more details about what happened, unpaywalled. https://www.luzernerzeitung.ch/wirtschaft/cyberangriff-die-gehackten-zahnbuersten-gehen-medial-um-die-welt-und-loesen-fragen-aus-wie-es-dazu-kam-ld.2577182

      In conversation about a year ago permalink
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      Kevin Beaumont (gossithedog@cyberplace.social)'s status on Monday, 26-Feb-2024 04:17:32 JST Kevin Beaumont Kevin Beaumont
      in reply to

      During the whole toothbrush botnet thing, people said ‘yes, the story is fake but it COULD happen’.

      Almost every smart toothbrush uses Bluetooth so no, it could not.

      Somebody pointed me towards one on Amazon which says it uses wi-fi, so I ordered it and investigated.

      The toothbrush only has Bluetooth. The charger uses wi-fi - but has no open TCP or UDP ports. Traffic is outbound only, TLS 1.3.

      So no, it was just total nonsense.

      In conversation about a year ago permalink
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      Ivo Damjanović (damjanovic@chaos.social)'s status on Monday, 26-Feb-2024 04:32:07 JST Ivo Damjanović Ivo Damjanović
      in reply to

      @GossiTheDog Wait a minute…
      The charger uses Wi-Fi?
      Why? Do you need a subscription to be able to charge the damn thing?

      In conversation about a year ago permalink
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      Joe Uchill (joeuchill@mastodon.social)'s status on Monday, 26-Feb-2024 05:03:22 JST Joe Uchill Joe Uchill
      in reply to

      @GossiTheDog this whole thing started with a reporter misunderstanding that toothbrushes was an ad absurdum example of anything internet connected. It’s sort of like being forced to test if, by giving Grandma wheels, she would become a cart.

      Even if there were WiFi toothbrushes, would there be so many of them using connectivity to create a massive botnet? Probably not.

      In conversation about a year ago permalink

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