Conversation

Notices

1. Embed this notice
   kaia (kaia@brotka.st)'s status on Tuesday, 06-Feb-2024 17:05:06 JST kaia
   I'm following the first YouTube account that uses a synthetic voice and presumably also generates its content with AI help. and it's still a good channel.
   
   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h4ixHi2_LLk
   • Embed this notice
     lainy (lain@lain.com)'s status on Tuesday, 06-Feb-2024 17:17:04 JST lainy

     in reply to
     @kaia this technology is great for non-native english speakers, or those that just odn't have a good voice. I'm all for it, although the current AI voices tend to be not the most expressive.
   • Embed this notice
     kaia (kaia@brotka.st)'s status on Tuesday, 06-Feb-2024 17:22:34 JST kaia

     in reply to

     • lainy
     @lain how come fake videos of e.g. Jordan Peterson sound word-perfect (not the cut up ones, the AI ones), but these voices still sound like a robot?
   • Embed this notice
     lainy (lain@lain.com)'s status on Tuesday, 06-Feb-2024 17:28:59 JST lainy

     in reply to
     @kaia elevenlabs voices made form actual speech samples are usually better at capturing the speech style. for base models, you often have to crank up the 'expressiveness' slider and that can become very unnatural too, so you have to regenerate until you get a good take.
     kaia likes this.
   • Embed this notice
     lainy (lain@lain.com)'s status on Tuesday, 06-Feb-2024 17:29:52 JST lainy

     in reply to

     • lainy
     @kaia and there's also the possibility of just changing the voice and not wholly generating it, that will keep the basic speech patterns of the original speaker
     kaia likes this.
   • Embed this notice
     kaia (kaia@brotka.st)'s status on Tuesday, 06-Feb-2024 17:34:47 JST kaia

     in reply to

     • lainy
     @lain that makes sense, thanks :comfy_cirno:
     
     making 10 min videos on first glance seems much nicer than what I currently do with Amazon books where I have to have 50-100 pages.
     
     but on second glance the required consistency and quality required to be picked up by the algorithm is a full time job.
     
     and I can't do the probably most lucrative ways to do this for moral and family reasons.
   • Embed this notice
     kaia (kaia@brotka.st)'s status on Tuesday, 06-Feb-2024 17:38:03 JST kaia

     in reply to

     • vaartis running up that hill
     @vaartis sorry I should have CWd that. they want that YT money by any means
   • Embed this notice
     vaartis running up that hill (vaartis@pl.kotobank.ch)'s status on Tuesday, 06-Feb-2024 17:38:05 JST vaartis running up that hill

     in reply to
     @kaia i regret looking through the channel's contents now
   • Embed this notice
     lainy (lain@lain.com)'s status on Tuesday, 06-Feb-2024 17:44:27 JST lainy

     in reply to
     @kaia i don't think the mindset of "i could be much more successful if I was a worse person" is a good one to have
     kaia likes this.
   • Embed this notice
     「セル」cell (سل) (cell@pl.ebin.zone)'s status on Tuesday, 06-Feb-2024 18:24:21 JST 「セル」cell (سل)

     in reply to

     • lainy
     @lain @kaia does this imply that one should be without any moral scruples when hustling, or just be your best while doing your best and may success in its many forms come to you :cat_eyebrow:
     kaia likes this.
   • Embed this notice
     kaia (kaia@brotka.st)'s status on Tuesday, 06-Feb-2024 18:30:51 JST kaia

     in reply to

     • 🔶Mark Nicoll 3.5%🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿🇬🇧🇪🇺🇺🇳
     @duckwhistle
     I'm not a native speaker. I meant it's the first such account I follow :comfy_cirno:
   • Embed this notice
     🔶Mark Nicoll 3.5%🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿🇬🇧🇪🇺🇺🇳 (duckwhistle@mastodon.org.uk)'s status on Tuesday, 06-Feb-2024 18:30:52 JST 🔶Mark Nicoll 3.5%🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿🇬🇧🇪🇺🇺🇳

     in reply to

     @kaia "the first" not likely. People have been putting videos with synthetic voices on YouTube almost as long as the site has existed. Text to Talk technology has been around for decades.
     As for AI scripting I would be very surprised if that wasn't being used on YouTube within weeks of it being available.

     kaia likes this.
   • Embed this notice
     🔶Mark Nicoll 3.5%🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿🇬🇧🇪🇺🇺🇳 (duckwhistle@mastodon.org.uk)'s status on Tuesday, 06-Feb-2024 19:02:19 JST 🔶Mark Nicoll 3.5%🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿🇬🇧🇪🇺🇺🇳

     in reply to

     @kaia
     Ah OK, I would never have guessed from your profile.

     May I suggest "My first" would make that clear.

     kaia likes this.
   • Embed this notice
     lainy (lain@lain.com)'s status on Tuesday, 06-Feb-2024 19:12:16 JST lainy

     in reply to

     • 「セル」cell (سل)
     @cell @kaia I think it fosters something in your mind that I think is a misunderstanding that's bad for your character and for success: That being successful involves being 'bad' or 'evil' somehow. The best way to be successful is to provide the most value to the most people, not to trick and cheat. Having the 'I would be succesful if only I wasn't such a good person' meme makes you resent succesful people ("she could only get there because she doesn't care about morals"), makes you lethargic by giving you a good excuse to never do anything ("i'm not doing well but that's to be expected because I'm a good person") and prevents you from learning from others.
     
     I think you should always try to be as morally correct as you can be in whatever you do, there's no special dispensation for 'business'.
     kaia likes this.
   • Embed this notice
     Sexy Moon (moon@shitposter.club)'s status on Tuesday, 06-Feb-2024 19:16:22 JST Sexy Moon

     in reply to

     • lainy
     • 「セル」cell (سل)
     @lain @kaia @cell relevant book:
     lainy likes this.
   • Embed this notice
     lainy (lain@lain.com)'s status on Tuesday, 06-Feb-2024 19:18:53 JST lainy

     in reply to

     • Sexy Moon
     • 「セル」cell (سل)
     @Moon @kaia @cell this is now officially the thread for intellectuals.
     
     Listened to this yesterday, a comparison of the lives and thoughts of nietzsche and dostoevsky, i found it very interesting: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qx7T_NrL36Y
     Sexy Moon likes this.
   • Embed this notice
     Sexy Moon (moon@shitposter.club)'s status on Tuesday, 06-Feb-2024 19:19:06 JST Sexy Moon

     in reply to

     • lainy
     • 「セル」cell (سل)
     @lain @kaia @cell I'll watch it soon, sounds interesting.
   • Embed this notice
     Aven (aven@shitposter.club)'s status on Tuesday, 06-Feb-2024 23:19:46 JST Aven

     in reply to

     • lainy
     • 「セル」cell (سل)
     @lain @kaia @cell I agree with this sentiment regarding morality, but there's an important nuance in this particular case.
     
     While TTS and translation are good for non-native english speakers, using AI to generate full scripts in often evil, and I suspect that might be what's being done here.
     
     I've encountered this kind of auto-generated content before, a TTS voice reading Wikipedia or MSM articles, with stock video in the background that is relevant to the words in the script (which can be very funny when it portrays a turn-of-phrase or expression in the script with video).
     
     But this video had zero original research, and is entirely MSM journo smear pieces about Notch, set to a combination of footage from the documentary "Minecraft: The Story of Mojang" and stock video.
     
     It re-churns the churnalism into a new medium, and may have been generated by a bot and massaged by a human.
     
     The channel's other content reveals it to be a clickbait algorithm farm.
     
     So mind that most of what you learned in that video about Notch being evil was written by evil journos as smear, and has been uncritically copy-pasted to the video.
     lainy likes this.