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   Shane Kerr (shane_kerr@fosstodon.org)'s status on Tuesday, 06-Feb-2024 05:33:47 JST Shane Kerr

   I admit I die a little inside every time I see concrete data showing that zfs is the best file system for some use case.

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     feld (feld@bikeshed.party)'s status on Tuesday, 06-Feb-2024 05:33:43 JST feld

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     • JP Mens
     @shane_kerr @jpmens
     
     > And as far as I can tell, it has no real maintenance behind it either any more, so from a long-term stability standpoint, why would you ever want to use it in the first place?
     
     Linus had no problem keeping the rotting JFS in the kernel for 20 years even after it caused massive data loss for people
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     Shane Kerr (shane_kerr@fosstodon.org)'s status on Tuesday, 06-Feb-2024 05:33:44 JST Shane Kerr

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     • JP Mens

     @jpmens I'm sure that ZFS is a fine file system, but the fact that Sun and/or Oracle deliberately chose a license incompatible with the GPL means that it is DEAD TO ME. ☠️

     Basically I agree with Linus Torvalds when he wrote, "Don't use ZFS":

     https://www.realworldtech.com/forum/?threadid=189711&curpostid=189841

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     JP Mens (jpmens@mastodon.social)'s status on Tuesday, 06-Feb-2024 05:33:46 JST JP Mens

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     @shane_kerr why? don't you like ZFS, or am I interpreting your toot incorrectly?

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     feld (feld@bikeshed.party)'s status on Tuesday, 06-Feb-2024 07:14:30 JST feld

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     @jpmens @shane_kerr it is very active -- even back in 2020 when this was posted -- but Linus doesn't want to acknowledge it.
     
     There have been 11 annual OpenZFS developer summits...
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     JP Mens (jpmens@mastodon.social)'s status on Tuesday, 06-Feb-2024 07:14:31 JST JP Mens

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     @feld @shane_kerr ZFS no maintenance? I think it’s been rolled into https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenZFS and it looks quite active to me

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     JP Mens (jpmens@mastodon.social)'s status on Tuesday, 06-Feb-2024 07:16:17 JST JP Mens

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     @feld @shane_kerr ah, sarcasm. I didn’t recognize it as a quote;)

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     feld (feld@bikeshed.party)'s status on Tuesday, 06-Feb-2024 07:21:35 JST feld

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     • JP Mens
     @jpmens @shane_kerr there's even a cleanroom implementation in *Python*
     
     https://github.com/alcarithemad/zfsp
     
     The original on-disk specification was published in 2006: https://www.giis.co.in/Zfs_ondiskformat.pdf
     
     It has been ported to Windows and MacOS as well. I really doubt we'll see a time where our ZFS data is inaccessible :laugh: