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   sim@shitposter.club's status on Monday, 05-Feb-2024 05:24:02 JST sim
   If you care about the worker and his wages then you would limit immigration, in fact... you'd probably stop immigration. Only when there are few workers to labour can the worker hold the power to negotiate a better wage and corporations will be forced to train and give better incentives to work.
   
   The aftermath of the Black Death is the greatest example where this became true for the peasants in the fields. Lords would even poach from each other to offer better pay and conditions. Peasants would escape for better conditions.
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     iced depresso (icedquinn@blob.cat)'s status on Monday, 05-Feb-2024 05:24:02 JST iced depresso

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     @sim i've posted about this and people looked at me weird. got dressed down about anti-immigration is usually from xenophobes and not from economic arguments :blobcatgoogly:
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     sim@shitposter.club's status on Monday, 05-Feb-2024 05:36:46 JST sim

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     @icedquinn Those people sound like they are anti-working class to me. At least, they must support the corporations and capitalism because this is who these migration policies support most. They are the ones often complaining about needing workers and bringing them over legally and cheaply. Poaching people from countries that need talent more.
     
     It's also the tactic of an oppressor. If you learn history, you know that the King of England sent English workers into Wales to build his castles. An even better example is the Highland clearance and English enclosures by Lords. Even though for the most part you aren't supposed to be able to move the peasant class around. It went against the rights of peasants. Now our overlords at corporations aren't tied to land or even a nation.
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     iced depresso (icedquinn@blob.cat)'s status on Monday, 05-Feb-2024 05:36:46 JST iced depresso

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     @sim i guess the point is that wagies tend to sympathize with illegals&/refugees.
     
     i saw commentary recently about how the 'professional class' tends to love immigration because it makes the services they depend on for comfort cheaper, also.