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josh :bocchi_arch: (josh@phocks.eu.org)'s status on Sunday, 04-Feb-2024 10:15:01 JST josh :bocchi_arch:

a CEO can never be held accountable therefore a CEO must never make a management decision

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  🎓 Doc Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 (freemo@qoto.org)'s status on Sunday, 04-Feb-2024 10:15:00 JST 🎓 Doc Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱
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  @josh Huh? How you figure they can never be held accountable?
  
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  feld (feld@bikeshed.party)'s status on Monday, 05-Feb-2024 02:16:41 JST feld
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  @josh can never be held accountable...? what?
  
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  🎓 Doc Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 (freemo@qoto.org)'s status on Monday, 05-Feb-2024 13:44:58 JST 🎓 Doc Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱
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  I mean I have literally fired more than one CEO in my life without a severance package and seen many others. Ther eis little truth in that statement.
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  Simon (iokiwi@infosec.exchange)'s status on Monday, 05-Feb-2024 13:44:59 JST Simon
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  @freemo @josh the joke is CEO's never seem to be held accountable. No matter how poorly they behave or how badly they fuck up, if theres any reprocussons, at all they always seem to get a multi million dollar severance package on their way out the door while their workers and the rest of society bear the social, economic and environmental costs of their actions.
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  "A computer can never be held accountable, therefore a computer must never make a management decision".
  
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  🎓 Doc Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 (freemo@qoto.org)'s status on Monday, 05-Feb-2024 13:46:15 JST 🎓 Doc Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱
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  Indeed it was.
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  josh :bocchi_arch: (josh@phocks.eu.org)'s status on Monday, 05-Feb-2024 13:46:16 JST josh :bocchi_arch:
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  @freemo @iokiwi good for you lol
  
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  feld (feld@bikeshed.party)'s status on Tuesday, 06-Feb-2024 07:28:43 JST feld
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  @utterfiction @josh Bank of America's board just cut their CEO's pay *again* for poor performance. That's not as serious though.
  
  Barnes & Noble's board fired their CEO without severance in 2018.
  
  CBS did the same for its CEO in 2018 -- denied them their $120M severance.
  
  https://www.cbsnews.com/news/cbs-board-says-les-moonves-will-not-receive-120-million-severance/
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    CBS board says Les Moonves will not receive $120 million severance
    
    In a statement, the board said it made its decision following the completion of a monthslong investigation
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  Stephen J. Anderson (utterfiction@mastodon.me.uk)'s status on Tuesday, 06-Feb-2024 07:28:44 JST Stephen J. Anderson
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  @feld @josh How many times have you seen a CEO being held *personally* accountable for their decisions? If they screw up, do they not, in fact, just get a massive payoff and a new job?
  
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  🎓 Doc Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 (freemo@qoto.org)'s status on Tuesday, 06-Feb-2024 11:03:35 JST 🎓 Doc Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱
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  @nwd Only if I was going to fire them anyway.
  
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  Nathan (nwd@mastodon.online)'s status on Tuesday, 06-Feb-2024 11:03:36 JST Nathan
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  @freemo If I want a certain CEO to be fired, will you do it for me?
  
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  🎓 Doc Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 (freemo@qoto.org)'s status on Tuesday, 06-Feb-2024 11:21:43 JST 🎓 Doc Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱
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  @davidfetter Oh thats simple. I've literally held them accountable on multiple occasions. I have had to fire and/or punish CEOs on quite a few occasions.
  Proof by counter-example.
  
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  David Fetter (davidfetter@kolektiva.social)'s status on Tuesday, 06-Feb-2024 11:21:44 JST David Fetter
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  @freemo you have this backwards. How do YOU figure they can ever be held accountable? Just FYI, golden parachutes are not accountability, and neither is a stay Club Fed, after which they return to mansions and mistresses.
  
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  Fabio G. (magitweeter@mastodon.social)'s status on Tuesday, 06-Feb-2024 14:03:17 JST Fabio G.
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  Good on you, anonymous internet user, for allegedly holding multiple CEOs accountable
  by allegedly firing them
  from a business you presumably own
  which in your telling amounts to holding them accountable
  (who holds you accountable, by the way?)
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  🎓 Doc Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 (freemo@qoto.org)'s status on Tuesday, 06-Feb-2024 14:03:17 JST 🎓 Doc Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱
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  I prove my identity online intentionally, im far from anonymous. Considering I worked in the public sector and just recently had fired a CEO you can very trivially both 1) prove my identity through the proofs I provide on my profile 2) confirm the CEO was let go through the public record since it was a public company.
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  🎓 Doc Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 (freemo@qoto.org)'s status on Tuesday, 06-Feb-2024 14:09:56 JST 🎓 Doc Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱
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  who holds you accountable, by the way?
  Oh thats easy, the public (thus why they are called public companies).
  @iokiwi @josh
  
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  🎓 Doc Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 (freemo@qoto.org)'s status on Tuesday, 06-Feb-2024 14:22:06 JST 🎓 Doc Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱
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  I posted my proofs to keyoxide which verifies my identity as well as directly proves my association with at least one such public company.
  You can then check the public records which all public companies post to the sec. It is clearly on record as board resolutions that I recently called the CEO of the company out for fraud in a board meeting, got him fired, and he is dealing with authorities now.
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  Fabio G. (magitweeter@mastodon.social)'s status on Tuesday, 06-Feb-2024 14:22:07 JST Fabio G.
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  Sorry, i can't find anything about you online, including you firing any CEOs.
  @iokiwi @josh
  
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  Fabio G. (magitweeter@mastodon.social)'s status on Tuesday, 06-Feb-2024 14:39:42 JST Fabio G.
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  Sorry, i can't find anything about your company on the SEC website.
  @iokiwi @josh
  
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  🎓 Doc Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 (freemo@qoto.org)'s status on Tuesday, 06-Feb-2024 14:39:42 JST 🎓 Doc Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱
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  You are probably looking at the wrong company. We are regulated by the ISA not the SEC. I am referring to scentech-medical & NextGen. You'll want the board resulutions to see it.
  @iokiwi @josh
  
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  David Fetter (davidfetter@kolektiva.social)'s status on Wednesday, 07-Feb-2024 14:41:40 JST David Fetter
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  @freemo Name two.
  
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  David Fetter (davidfetter@kolektiva.social)'s status on Wednesday, 07-Feb-2024 14:41:40 JST David Fetter
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  @freemo it's now been over a day since you alleged you "had to" do this pretty nebulous thing.
  I'm just gonna put it out there that I asked you to name them for specific reasons, to wit:
  - The obvious one, i.e. put up or shut up, and
  - One slightly less obvious in this dystopian hellscape, namely that accountability and anonymity are opposites. If you're not allowed to say who they are, they were NOT held accountable, no matter what other things you try to insinuate happened without actually describing them.
  
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  🎓 Doc Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 (freemo@qoto.org)'s status on Wednesday, 07-Feb-2024 14:41:40 JST 🎓 Doc Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱
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  @davidfetter Dude I have 33K followers.. a LOT of posts slip by me or I forget. I apologize for not responding. I totally forgot about you asking.
  I could legally mention their names, I'm just not sure if legally that would be troublesome. That said, you could easily find out by just looking at my website, see the companies I was a board member on and looking at their public data. Resolutions I've called ro firing CEO's or otherwise holding them accountable will not be hard to find attached to my record serving on public boards.
  I can help point you to the relevant tools if you need help.
  
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  David Fetter (davidfetter@kolektiva.social)'s status on Wednesday, 07-Feb-2024 15:01:31 JST David Fetter
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  @freemo so you're agreeing that you are unable to put up. d0 y0uR 0wn r3s34rc|-| isn't putting up.
  You're the one making the extraordinary claim. You're the one who actually has to trot out the extraordinary evidence for it.
  
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  🎓 Doc Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 (freemo@qoto.org)'s status on Wednesday, 07-Feb-2024 15:01:31 JST 🎓 Doc Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱
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  I dont mind necceseraly putting up. But as long as I dont have to go into detail its on public record so shouldnt be a problem.
  Two names that come to mind are Harel Hirshtik and Lew Bloch, both CEOs i've manage to get to hold accountable and fired them as well.
  
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