John Spurlock
‘Less than 1% of all downloads come from apps that support the podcasting 2.0 specs, this is something you do not hear the proponents mention.
There's virtually no support on the listener side which is where it's supposed to matter most.’
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James Cridland
@js A full transcript is here. https://podnews.net/article/podcasting-20-clear
I agree wholeheartedly with much of what they both say. Notably, @theDanielJLewis spent some time trying to do a clearer website to educate more people about Podcasting 2.0. I tried to do similar with podcastnamespace.org as well. It’s got nowhere, and I’m disappointed about that.
John Spurlock
And here's the final part of the segment, where Rob and Elsie wrap things up.
‘I personally think they're really cool, I'm just having a hard time explaining them to my people’
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John Spurlock
Appreciate Rob and Elsie having this conversation in public - I've had some of the same conversations in private, but it's good to hear them expressed in the open.
Important to take stock of where things are now, while still looking and planning years ahead.
Elsie has a good metaphor in her followup to Rob comparing to the Apple headset and asks:
‘Is my audience really gonna jump through hoops for this?’
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Adam Curry :pci: :pc2blue:
Set it up! I did the same with value4value.info, which even goes beyond podcasting. I point to it all the time.
Build the website, I'll point to it all day long.
This is not hat podcastindex.org should be doing.
Daniel J. Lewis
@adam @james @js "Where there is no vision, the people perish."
What I think we need the website to do is very clearly set and define that vision, so _everyone_ can better understand and re-explain Podcasting 2.0 to others and carry Podcasting 2.0 in our hearts all year long.
Adam Curry :pci: :pc2blue:
When podcasters explain certain or all benefits to their own audiences, adoption goes up, often into the double digits.
This is much more powerful than any marketing website will ever be.
Podcasting is not a monolith platform.
That's the mistake the Podcast Industrial Complex keeps making and losing money over.
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