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   Martin Jambon 🌍🌎🌏 (mjambon@qoto.org)'s status on Wednesday, 31-Jan-2024 12:34:16 JST Martin Jambon 🌍🌎🌏

   • 🎓 Doc Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱

   @freemo no. If tipping is expected, they get the standard tip. I don't have brain cycles for micromanaging other people's employees.

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     🎓 Doc Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 (freemo@qoto.org)'s status on Wednesday, 31-Jan-2024 12:41:56 JST 🎓 Doc Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱

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     @mjambon I suppose that also means if they are extra over the top helpful they also don't get extra tip?

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     Martin Jambon 🌍🌎🌏 (mjambon@qoto.org)'s status on Wednesday, 31-Jan-2024 12:46:39 JST Martin Jambon 🌍🌎🌏

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     • 🎓 Doc Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱

     @freemo correct. I'm still thinking about tipping vs. not tipping. I try to rationalize my attitude but I realize it's deeply cultural.

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     🎓 Doc Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 (freemo@qoto.org)'s status on Wednesday, 31-Jan-2024 12:48:34 JST 🎓 Doc Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱

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     @mjambon Cultural to some extent, but real circumstantial. Like in the USA people need tip to survive, not so much anywhere else. I dont see that as culture so much as legal circumstances.

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     Martin Jambon 🌍🌎🌏 (mjambon@qoto.org)'s status on Wednesday, 31-Jan-2024 13:11:35 JST Martin Jambon 🌍🌎🌏

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     • 🎓 Doc Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱

     @freemo what do you mean they need tips? Fast-food workers don't get tips, they survive, and I as a customer I prefer the experience.

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     🎓 Doc Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 (freemo@qoto.org)'s status on Wednesday, 31-Jan-2024 13:20:10 JST 🎓 Doc Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱

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     @mjambon I mean in jobs where tips are expected the minimum wage is something like $2. In jobs where tipping isn't expected min wage is like $15. So yes McDonald's cashier's in the USA make way more base hourly than a waitor.

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     Martin Jambon 🌍🌎🌏 (mjambon@qoto.org)'s status on Wednesday, 31-Jan-2024 13:29:24 JST Martin Jambon 🌍🌎🌏

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     • 🎓 Doc Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱

     @freemo right. In California, everyone makes the same minimum hourly wage of $16 regardless of tips. There's no "employer discount" for tipped employees like at the federal level and many other states. https://www.dol.gov/agencies/whd/state/minimum-wage/tipped

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     🎓 Doc Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 (freemo@qoto.org)'s status on Wednesday, 31-Jan-2024 13:30:41 JST 🎓 Doc Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱

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     @mjambon ohhh news to me. Nice

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     Martin Jambon 🌍🌎🌏 (mjambon@qoto.org)'s status on Wednesday, 31-Jan-2024 13:31:01 JST Martin Jambon 🌍🌎🌏

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     • 🎓 Doc Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱

     @freemo I also had no idea until like 2 months ago.