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    Robert Reich (rbreich@masto.ai)'s status on Tuesday, 30-Jan-2024 01:15:06 JST Robert Reich Robert Reich

    The price of Huggies diapers went up 6% between April- June 2023.

    Inflation, right? Wrong.

    Kimberly-Clark, the maker of Huggies, reported that the cost to make its products fell by $75 million.They took the money and ran, banking $168 million in operating profits in Q3 2023.

    Now, new research shows that corporate profits drove 53% of inflation during the 2nd and 3rd quarters of 2023. During the 40 years prior to the pandemic, profits drove just 11% of price growth.

    In conversation Tuesday, 30-Jan-2024 01:15:06 JST from masto.ai permalink
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      GhostOnTheHalfShell (ghostonthehalfshell@masto.ai)'s status on Tuesday, 30-Jan-2024 03:47:20 JST GhostOnTheHalfShell GhostOnTheHalfShell
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      @rbreich Adam Smith:

      "Smith thought that high profits were a symptom of serious market disequilibrium: they were ‘always highest in the countries which are going fastest to ruin.’ "

      https://www.economicsobservatory.com/does-adam-smiths-theory-really-imply-todays-inequality

      If markets are central to capitalism and high profits are a symptom of dysfunction in its core pillar, high profits are, in essence, anti-capitalist.

      Conservatives don't defend capitalism, they destroy it. The Left is actually doing more for healthy markets.

      #WhatCapitalism

      In conversation Tuesday, 30-Jan-2024 03:47:20 JST permalink

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      feld (feld@bikeshed.party)'s status on Tuesday, 30-Jan-2024 03:47:20 JST feld feld
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      @GhostOnTheHalfShell @rbreich it's just price discovery. You just raise your prices and see what the market will bear. Clearly people are willing to pay the prices for the convenience vs going back to cloth diapers (which as a poor 80s kid, we used)
      In conversation Tuesday, 30-Jan-2024 03:47:20 JST permalink
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      feld (feld@bikeshed.party)'s status on Tuesday, 30-Jan-2024 04:04:08 JST feld feld
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      @GhostOnTheHalfShell @rbreich > At which point, cloth diapers will cost $1000,

      If cloth diapers cost $1000 then cotton would have to be crazy expensive, and at that point everything would be ridiculous. Not gonna happen.

      People are just willing to pay the high prices for the modern convenience and then complain. This is typical modern America.

      > Go read Adam Smith.

      Go read Henry Hazlitt
      In conversation Tuesday, 30-Jan-2024 04:04:08 JST permalink
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      GhostOnTheHalfShell (ghostonthehalfshell@masto.ai)'s status on Tuesday, 30-Jan-2024 04:04:09 JST GhostOnTheHalfShell GhostOnTheHalfShell
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      @feld @rbreich

      Without real competition there is no real market. Go read Adam Smith. High profits are a sign of a diseased market. It is in fact anti-capitalist.

      Eventually people will go back to cloth, I suppose. At which point, cloth diapers will cost $1000, washing machines $10000 and laundry soap $100 a gram

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      feld (feld@bikeshed.party)'s status on Tuesday, 30-Jan-2024 05:01:40 JST feld feld
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      @GhostOnTheHalfShell

      > This school is debunked mathematically and behaviorally.

      LMAO are you telling me Keynesian is "mathematically and behaviorally proven"? The fake school of economics that makes everything up?
      In conversation Tuesday, 30-Jan-2024 05:01:40 JST permalink
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      GhostOnTheHalfShell (ghostonthehalfshell@masto.ai)'s status on Tuesday, 30-Jan-2024 05:01:41 JST GhostOnTheHalfShell GhostOnTheHalfShell
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      @feld @rbreich

      Please refer to the studied phenomena. The cost of raw materials is largely a tiny fraction of the price we pay. The global economy is largely driven by cartels/oligopoly. Without competition, markets are dead.

      Hazlitt was not even an economist and promoted the Austrian school. This school is debunked mathematically and behaviorally. Everything touched by it kills the pillars of capitalism. That school is anti-capitalist.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_Hazlitt

      In conversation Tuesday, 30-Jan-2024 05:01:41 JST permalink
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      feld (feld@bikeshed.party)'s status on Tuesday, 30-Jan-2024 05:13:31 JST feld feld
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      @GhostOnTheHalfShell I'll just let you keep being wrong on your own, good luck :tipshat:
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      GhostOnTheHalfShell (ghostonthehalfshell@masto.ai)'s status on Tuesday, 30-Jan-2024 05:13:32 JST GhostOnTheHalfShell GhostOnTheHalfShell
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      @feld

      No.

      Your is a logical fallacy. You are assuming that the antithesis of the Austrian school is Keynesian. It speaks to the academic poverty of the economic field that anyone would resort to that argument as a rebuttal.

      Economic theory that assumes systemic equilibrium is bunk because the assertion is mathematically false. Much more of economics is bunk because it is inconsistent with human behavior. Keynes was subject to these fallacies as well.

      In conversation Tuesday, 30-Jan-2024 05:13:32 JST permalink
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      Coach Pāṇini ® (paninid@mastodon.world)'s status on Tuesday, 30-Jan-2024 05:52:01 JST Coach Pāṇini ® Coach Pāṇini ®
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      @GhostOnTheHalfShell @feld

      #economics #modeling #HumanBehavior

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      SlicerDicer (slicerdicer@bikeshed.party)'s status on Tuesday, 30-Jan-2024 05:53:54 JST SlicerDicer SlicerDicer
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      @GhostOnTheHalfShell @feld @rbreich That’s what people say, but history is rife with those who displaced the status quo.

      If you were told Amazon would grow from Bezos Garage to rival borders? You’d have said they were insane.

      If Woz and Jobs would do what they did sitting in the home brew club.

      When there is less competition you can stand out. Then they become what they were trying to change. It’s a cycle.
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      GhostOnTheHalfShell (ghostonthehalfshell@masto.ai)'s status on Tuesday, 30-Jan-2024 05:53:55 JST GhostOnTheHalfShell GhostOnTheHalfShell
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      @SlicerDicer @feld @rbreich

      That’s only possible if the entrants can muster an entry. In tech, the whales buy up or put out of business any potential rival. EG Amazon bankrupting diapers.com by selling below cost. It ended up buying then dismantling the company. This manouver is replicated constantly to the point now in tech, companies are formed simply to cash out.

      Similarly in food processing, giants like Cargill or Kroger|Albertsons dominate their respective sectors. 🧵

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      SlicerDicer (slicerdicer@bikeshed.party)'s status on Tuesday, 30-Jan-2024 05:53:56 JST SlicerDicer SlicerDicer
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      @GhostOnTheHalfShell @feld @rbreich

      >> Without real competition there is no real market.

      Real Competition kicks in when there is none, the incumbents become lax.

      How about look how innovation really happens. Its someone who gets tired of the status quo and kicks the fucking door down. From a basement or a garage. Or even a stilt house! Can't forget those crazy fucks.
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      feld (feld@bikeshed.party)'s status on Tuesday, 30-Jan-2024 05:55:25 JST feld feld
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      @GhostOnTheHalfShell you can't model the economy. it is subject to natural forces and human behaviors that simply cannot be predicted or modeled. Any attempt to "steer" the economy with tariffs and subsidies ends in disaster. Every. Single. Time.

      The economy works best when natural price discovery happens.
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      GhostOnTheHalfShell (ghostonthehalfshell@masto.ai)'s status on Tuesday, 30-Jan-2024 05:55:26 JST GhostOnTheHalfShell GhostOnTheHalfShell
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      @feld

      https://www.amazon.com/Dynamic-Economic-Systems-Keynesian-Approach/dp/0873322150

      Blatt was a theoretic physicist, who upon hearing the assertions of economics, said it was a load of garbage, then proceeded to wreck economic theory mathematically. Also there are quite a few economists who have worked to found theory on solid math and accounting identities.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_M._Blatt

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      feld (feld@bikeshed.party)'s status on Tuesday, 30-Jan-2024 06:09:28 JST feld feld
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      @GhostOnTheHalfShell @SlicerDicer This is just government failure when it comes to breaking up a monopoly that can happen in essentially any system of economics. I wouldn't read into this too much.
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      GhostOnTheHalfShell (ghostonthehalfshell@masto.ai)'s status on Tuesday, 30-Jan-2024 06:09:29 JST GhostOnTheHalfShell GhostOnTheHalfShell
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      @SlicerDicer @feld @rbreich

      You’re talking about the legal infrastructure and economic system of several decades ago. The landscape is completely different and it’s anticompetitive structure repeatedly demonstrated in studies. Amazon itself forces higher prices on vendors and uses its hegemonic position to force disadvantaged to competing e-commerce sites. It’s well known in the valley, you don’t plan to complete with the whales, but be bought out.

      This is standard now.

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      Bobby (robert_vinson@liberdon.com)'s status on Tuesday, 30-Jan-2024 06:10:15 JST Bobby Bobby
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      @GhostOnTheHalfShell @feld

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      feld (feld@bikeshed.party)'s status on Tuesday, 30-Jan-2024 06:17:07 JST feld feld
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      @GhostOnTheHalfShell > This is patently wrong because they deny the math than defines the conditions where a healthy market can exist.

      this math doesn't exist
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      GhostOnTheHalfShell (ghostonthehalfshell@masto.ai)'s status on Tuesday, 30-Jan-2024 06:17:08 JST GhostOnTheHalfShell GhostOnTheHalfShell
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      @feld

      But this assertion is made by means of rightwing economic models.

      You are assume that the antithesis of standard economics is the assertion that price controls are the “fix” and that standard economics knows markets work so what they say about them is correct. This is patently wrong because they deny the math than defines the conditions where a healthy market can exist.

      Friedman is responsible for the death of price discovery. The Chicago school is worse than Stalin.

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      GhostOnTheHalfShell (ghostonthehalfshell@masto.ai)'s status on Tuesday, 30-Jan-2024 06:22:06 JST GhostOnTheHalfShell GhostOnTheHalfShell
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      @feld @SlicerDicer

      You are not a serious person economically. Chicago school models are used to prove why Ticket Master and Live Nation are OK.

      They are monopolies. Amazon is a platform feudalist economic system.

      Again, M Friedman assertions about economics underpins the Bork doctrine, which eviscerated the Sherman act, a proper response to the anti market power of the Gilded Age.

      In conversation Tuesday, 30-Jan-2024 06:22:06 JST permalink
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      feld (feld@bikeshed.party)'s status on Tuesday, 30-Jan-2024 06:22:06 JST feld feld
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      @GhostOnTheHalfShell @SlicerDicer do you think I *agree* with the current state of Ticket Master / Live Nation ?
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      feld (feld@bikeshed.party)'s status on Tuesday, 30-Jan-2024 06:26:37 JST feld feld
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      @GhostOnTheHalfShell I want all "modern" economic theory flushed down the toilet because it's garbage central planning
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      GhostOnTheHalfShell (ghostonthehalfshell@masto.ai)'s status on Tuesday, 30-Jan-2024 06:26:38 JST GhostOnTheHalfShell GhostOnTheHalfShell
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      @feld

      Then cast down the Chicago school etc. Toss out Friedman. They all have models describing how economies work. The economics you embrace say they know.

      What you are saying is that in essence the invisible hand, markets are not provably optimal and your assertion about what works better is groundless.

      In conversation Tuesday, 30-Jan-2024 06:26:38 JST permalink

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