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   Jess👾 (jesstheunstill@infosec.exchange)'s status on Thursday, 25-Jan-2024 19:08:46 JST Jess👾

   FYI cis women/fems in tech - it's not just in your head. Misogyny is EXTREMELY real ALL OVER THE PLACE here. Having been the EXACT SAME PERSON with EVEN MORE YEARS OF EXPERIENCE in tech both BT/AT (Before tits/After tits), the amount of second guessing and pushback and mansplaining, and being told I'm "too emotional" or "I should be more polite" and whatever else has gone up DRAMATICALLY.

   Seriously.

   PS: And it's not just from men either. I've probably received at least as much misogyny from women in tech as I have men.

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     Jess👾 (jesstheunstill@infosec.exchange)'s status on Thursday, 25-Jan-2024 19:08:43 JST Jess👾

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     • Artemis

     @artemis
     Yeah, it's why I post stuff like this periodically. The system is stacked in such a way that it's always impossible to really get a clear picture of how much is real vs how much is in your head. But trans people can tell you: even in 2024, the world is still sexist as hell. Otherwise us changing our pronouns and clothing wouldn't change anything meaningful. But it does. We're the closest thing to an A/B test of misogyny that you're ever going to get.

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     Artemis (artemis@dice.camp)'s status on Thursday, 25-Jan-2024 19:08:45 JST Artemis

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     @JessTheUnstill
     This is so affirming to hear in a way, because one of the worst things for me personally about misogyny is just being so gaslit about it constantly for your entire life (by people who are also fooling themselves) that you can hardly tell that it's happening and often wonder if you're making it up.

     It means a lot to hear "it's not just in your head" from a woman who has the life experience to observe it in another light.

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     GreenSkyOverMe (Monika) (greenskyoverme@ohai.social)'s status on Thursday, 25-Jan-2024 20:33:00 JST GreenSkyOverMe (Monika)

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     • Artemis

     @JessTheUnstill @artemis I always find the reports about sexism by both trans women and trans men very interesting, e.g. regarding "men coming my way on the sidewalk run me over / don't run me over anymore".