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@ageha @meso they're pawns to dilute the political power of people already living here. none of the claims for why it's beneficial to let this happen hold up to scrutiny.
alternative is leave the fences up and guatemalans become mexico's problem, so they fix their border instead of escorting people to ours.
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@ageha @meso it doesn't benefit me in any way to let millions of poor uneducated people into the country that has so much inflation that it's national policy to fire americans
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@meso @ageha americans are perceived as too wealthy and entitled, so they're being diluted with people that are desperate for far less.
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@Moon @ageha it benefits the rich. that's why even the side that is supposedly against it is actually comically ineffective and only manages to drive people away from that viewpoint, and exacerbate the political and psychological cycle that will inevitably lead to America being really easy to immigrate to for cheap workers.
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@meso @ageha there's no good argument for low skill immigration, especially when your country is laying people off because they're paid too much.
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@Moon @ageha there was an Australian political party that made a really good point against immigration, I read it and I was like "gee that really does make sense", they changed my mind. good party, if the American political system wasn't complete delusional made up bullshit you guys would have a party like that, a party that instead of driving people away with xenophobic emotional rhetoric underlines the actual problem with immigration
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@Moon @meso @ageha
> americans are perceived as too wealthy and entitled
this is 100% accurate, mass consumerism is a political liability cause all demands cannot be met so a temporary fix is to just replace with people that will be content with less
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@orekix @ageha @meso that's a theoretical argument not an argument against how much people actually currently demand. as it stands people want more health care and job security.
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@Moon @ageha @meso
it's a loophole where both wealthy neoliberals and the machinators of your democratic party unite in force for cheap labor and a bigger voter base, it's exactly how it played out in sweden and other european countries as well
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@whiteline @ageha @meso Rich people have class solidarity.
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@Moon @whiteline @ageha @meso sadly the poor do not, and it's at least partially by design
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