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   Matthew Haughey (mathowie@xoxo.zone)'s status on Tuesday, 23-Jan-2024 04:47:20 JST Matthew Haughey

   Can we all agree Wonka (2023) will be the last film to ever use a fat suit as a running gag in a movie? I know it's nowhere near equivalent, but I feel like society collectively abandoned ever using blackface in a mainstream film after Tropic Thunder did it ironically in 2006, and we're all better for never having to see anyone try to do it again.

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     Evan Prodromou (evan@cosocial.ca)'s status on Tuesday, 23-Jan-2024 04:47:17 JST Evan Prodromou

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     • Quinn Norton

     @quinn @mathowie It was an impressive film in that it changed the conversation about both blackface and intellectual disability by taking a clumsy approach to both. Some movies change the world by presenting an important idea; others change it by fucking up really badly.

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     Quinn Norton (quinn@social.circl.lu)'s status on Tuesday, 23-Jan-2024 04:47:19 JST Quinn Norton

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     @mathowie it's very like how blazing saddles killed the western genre, and it had to be totally reinvented. I haven't seen Tropic Thunder (I must one day) but I admire that it managed to kill blackface.

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     Evan Prodromou (evan@cosocial.ca)'s status on Tuesday, 23-Jan-2024 04:49:35 JST Evan Prodromou

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     • Quinn Norton

     @quinn @mathowie Robert Downey Jr. plays a self-obsessed white method actor who performs in blackface with furious intensity. Audiences realized that an actor playing an actor playing in blackface is just an actor playing in blackface, actually. Which was the right realization.