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   13 barn owls in a trenchcoat (hauntedowlbear@eldritch.cafe)'s status on Friday, 12-Jan-2024 23:04:58 JST 13 barn owls in a trenchcoat

   Why on earth does OnShape, an online CAD tool, default to inches?

   Has anyone even done industrial design in inches since 1950? Fuck off.

   (It also defaults to "foot-pound force", which I didn't even know existed, instead of joules and "kilopounds per square inch" instead of pascals. I can't even.)

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     13 barn owls in a trenchcoat (hauntedowlbear@eldritch.cafe)'s status on Friday, 12-Jan-2024 23:09:00 JST 13 barn owls in a trenchcoat

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     • Gareth Halfacree

     @ghalfacree Actually, come to think of it, I think I've seen it on an old metric + imperial torque wrench, unless that's a phantom memory.

     But both of those feel very much like legacy applications.

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     Gareth Halfacree (ghalfacree@mastodon.social)'s status on Friday, 12-Jan-2024 23:09:01 JST Gareth Halfacree

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     @HauntedOwlbear I know foot-pounds, but only 'cos I have a few air rifles (which are legally regulated to under 12ft/lbs of pressure before you need a Firearms Certificate) and air pistols (which are regulated to 6ft/lbs, above which they're Very Very Illegal.)

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     13 barn owls in a trenchcoat (hauntedowlbear@eldritch.cafe)'s status on Friday, 12-Jan-2024 23:48:12 JST 13 barn owls in a trenchcoat

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     Correction, since 1999, when NASA lost an entire Mars Climate Orbiter due to using Imperial units for... reasons?, after which everyone presumably took away the obvious lesson.

     Still older than OnShape.

     I maaaayyy have been rage-searching measurements that are no longer used in serious applications, but the US has this not-quite-imperial, not-quite-système-du-roi "customary measurements" thing and it is wild, because it does actually seem to get some IRL traction outside schoolkids being taught gratuitously odd things because they're"easier", always-legacy applications like plumbing, or, for some reason, online recipes.

     Anyway, I'd always thought that US America used old British Imperial measures outside of the sciences, but no, they apparently have their own thing that might be "even weirder*.

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     13 barn owls in a trenchcoat (hauntedowlbear@eldritch.cafe)'s status on Friday, 12-Jan-2024 23:57:40 JST 13 barn owls in a trenchcoat

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     • berserk du soleil

     @aetataureate

     Yeah, I recalled later that I had a torque wrench with those on as well as joules.

     I am thinking that they may have a lot of mechanics and plumbers in their target user base.

     (To be fair, I was recommended it at a class I took about 3D printing replacement parts for pretty everyday mechanisms, but we were working in metric thoughout.)

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     berserk du soleil (aetataureate@dosgame.club)'s status on Friday, 12-Jan-2024 23:57:44 JST berserk du soleil

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     @HauntedOwlbear foot-pounds and pound-feet are still actively used by car people talking about engine torque

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     :trebuchet: Kale :trebuchet: (darkestkale@mastodon.social)'s status on Saturday, 13-Jan-2024 00:06:01 JST :trebuchet: Kale :trebuchet:

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     @HauntedOwlbear Sadly, yeah.

     Lots of stuff still gets done in fucking imperial.

     Especially threads for pneumatics shit.

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     13 barn owls in a trenchcoat (hauntedowlbear@eldritch.cafe)'s status on Saturday, 13-Jan-2024 00:06:01 JST 13 barn owls in a trenchcoat

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     @DarkestKale we have some UK imperial thread taps! (Needed for both old British and - for reasons which remain opaque to me - old French vehicles).