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   MC Read ☦️ (mcread@noagendasocial.com)'s status on Friday, 14-Oct-2022 16:53:37 JST MC Read ☦️

   Strange move :

   Signal will remove support for SMS text messages on Android

   https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/technology/signal-will-remove-support-for-sms-text-messages-on-android/

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     MC Read ☦️ (mcread@noagendasocial.com)'s status on Friday, 14-Oct-2022 16:53:32 JST MC Read ☦️

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     • CapitalB

     @charliebrownau @CapitalB there's no doubt that the others are flawed and using existing infrastructure is a great idea.

     I'm thinking the same can be applied for Notes applications for instance, can Joplin be sync-ed with an IMAP server ? It would be interesting to see a WebDav bridge to IMAP

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     Charliebrownau (charliebrownau@pieville.net)'s status on Friday, 14-Oct-2022 16:53:32 JST Charliebrownau

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     @mcread @CapitalB

     I would like to see an 'app'/program
     that looks like Discord

     Yet uses
     IRC and Mumble

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     寮 (ryo@social.076.ne.jp)'s status on Friday, 14-Oct-2022 16:53:32 JST 寮

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     @charliebrownau @mcread @CapitalB
     > that looks like Discord
     
     Basically everything with soy.
     Though if it needs to be IRC, I heard of one project that wants to turn IRC into a "modern chat app" disaster.
     Hell, even Gajim, an XMPP client, went full blown Discucked-wannabee...
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     Charliebrownau (charliebrownau@pieville.net)'s status on Friday, 14-Oct-2022 16:53:33 JST Charliebrownau

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     @CapitalB @mcread

     Ive been using it for many months

     I recommend the video I did explaining it all

     Delta Chat is awesome

     https://www.joshwhotv.com/v/.QDss2Q

     Did you know Telegram CEO is on the board of WEF

     Goyim will own nothing and be happy

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     CapitalB (capitalb@noagendasocial.com)'s status on Friday, 14-Oct-2022 16:53:35 JST CapitalB

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     @mcread @charliebrownau

     https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delta_Chat

     Yes.

     Financed by EU, no English WP

     Weird. But I like the concept.

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     MC Read ☦️ (mcread@noagendasocial.com)'s status on Friday, 14-Oct-2022 16:53:36 JST MC Read ☦️

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     • Charliebrownau

     @charliebrownau Wait a minute, what do you mean it encrypts messages ? Does it support PGP out of the box ? Just secure connection to IMAP and SMTP I assume ...

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     Charliebrownau (charliebrownau@pieville.net)'s status on Friday, 14-Oct-2022 16:53:37 JST Charliebrownau

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     @mcread Better solution is to stop using
     Signal and Telegram

     Use Delta Chat
     No SMS
     No Real name
     Delta Chat encypts pop3/smtp emails
     Has Linux or Windows 'app' and iOS and Android/apk support

     Video - Delta Chat is awesomeness
     https://www.joshwhotv.com/v/.QDss2Q

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     Charliebrownau (charliebrownau@pieville.net)'s status on Friday, 14-Oct-2022 16:53:54 JST Charliebrownau

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     @mcread @CapitalB

     Im pretty sure I came across an cli linux program for Mastodon

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     寮 (ryo@social.076.ne.jp)'s status on Friday, 14-Oct-2022 16:53:54 JST 寮

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     • CapitalB
     @charliebrownau @mcread @CapitalB Like "tut"?
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     MC Read ☦️ (mcread@noagendasocial.com)'s status on Friday, 14-Oct-2022 16:53:55 JST MC Read ☦️

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     @charliebrownau @CapitalB

     For mastodon it would also be interesting if it worked via emails for replies ... there's a killer app

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     Charliebrownau (charliebrownau@pieville.net)'s status on Friday, 14-Oct-2022 16:57:35 JST Charliebrownau

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     • CapitalB

     @ryo @CapitalB @mcread

     Have you seen profanity XMMP https://profanity-im.github.io/

     or
     Dino IM
     https://dino.im/

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     寮 (ryo@social.076.ne.jp)'s status on Friday, 14-Oct-2022 17:03:24 JST 寮

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     @charliebrownau @CapitalB @mcread
     Profanity sucks donkey anus when it comes to navigation, and enabling OMEMO every time is much more of a hassle than in other clients.
     
     And Dino has potential, but still in early development so it lacks way too many essential features.
     Plus it's a very typical GTK 4 (previously GTK 3) app, so the UI is quite cancerous.
     
     I'm also keeping a close eye on Communique, which is a TUI app like Profanity, but much easier to navigate through, but just like Dino, it's still in early development.
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     Charliebrownau (charliebrownau@pieville.net)'s status on Friday, 14-Oct-2022 17:03:51 JST Charliebrownau

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     • CapitalB

     @ryo @CapitalB @mcread

     I dont mind if they make IRC look all modern and fancy

     Just add a gui skin
     to a protcol/standard

     Dont ruin the existing underlying tech behind it thou

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     Charliebrownau (charliebrownau@pieville.net)'s status on Friday, 14-Oct-2022 17:12:48 JST Charliebrownau

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     @ryo @CapitalB @mcread

     Why do so many people use ((( github))

     Haven't looked into GO
     Is it another corporation sponsored language ?

     https://github.com/mellium/communique-tui

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     寮 (ryo@social.076.ne.jp)'s status on Friday, 14-Oct-2022 17:16:11 JST 寮

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     @charliebrownau @CapitalB @mcread
     > Why do so many people use ((( github))
     
     Because "MUH KONVIINIENSU!!".
     
     > Haven't looked into GO
     > Is it another corporation sponsored language?
     
     Kind of.
     It's made by the same guys who made the C language when they worked at Bells Lab (which also made Unix), and now they work at Goolag.
     Though seems like Goolag is having a hands off approach on Go, and lets the community develop it under strict supervision of the guys who made C and Go.
     But since they're Goolag employees, Goolag loves to brag about Go as if it was one of their own products.
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     Terminal Autism (terminalautism@social.076.ne.jp)'s status on Saturday, 15-Oct-2022 01:07:49 JST Terminal Autism

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     • Charliebrownau
     • CapitalB
     @ryo @charliebrownau @CapitalB @mcread "so the UI is quite cancerous"
     I refuse to use anything that has that ugly and gigantic GNOME bar on top. Fuck that. Everything after GTK2 was a mistake.
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     Charliebrownau (charliebrownau@pieville.net)'s status on Saturday, 15-Oct-2022 09:13:15 JST Charliebrownau

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     • CapitalB

     @TerminalAutism @CapitalB @mcread @ryo

     GTK3
     SubvertD
     Dbus
     Policykit
     Avahi
     Gnome 3
     Pulseaudio

     Its all been a slow continual centralisation and creep into the OSS/FOSS/Linux scene

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     Terminal Autism (terminalautism@social.076.ne.jp)'s status on Saturday, 15-Oct-2022 09:19:38 JST Terminal Autism

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     • Charliebrownau
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     @charliebrownau @CapitalB @mcread @ryo Yeah, even on the BSDs, you are probably at least going to have dbus since it's a dependency for everything, that there is no replacement for. And avoiding GTK is just barely possible if you use Qt, but good luck doing that, and it's not like Qt is all that much better anyway, Seems extremely corporate and I may have heard something about them not developing the free version of Qt anymore, or something. I don't know.
     
     I actually remember something on a BSD having pulseaudio as a dependency. I think it may have been a web browser on FreeBSD. Maybe Qutebrowser. Probably unnecessary, not sure what they were thinking there. Maybe there was something like that on OpenBSD too. It's just bizarre, considering that both of those OSs actually have pretty good sound, unlike Linux (that has the worst audio that you will ever find on anything ever). FreeBSD has some extended version of OSS4, and OpenBSD that sndio, and both are simpler and work without having these gigantic freedesktop/Red Hat monstrosities stacked on top of them.
     
     Anyway, it's all fucked. Software that respects your freedom is dead. And free software as a term and concept is so dead I can't even use it anymore because I am actively against it. And it's all corporate, corporations took it all over and there was zero resistance.
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     寮 (ryo@social.076.ne.jp)'s status on Saturday, 15-Oct-2022 09:19:38 JST 寮

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     • Terminal Autism
     • CapitalB
     @TerminalAutism @charliebrownau @CapitalB @mcread Apparently, Parabola (or Hyperbola, I keep confusing the 2) managed to remove DBus from their distro somehow.
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     Terminal Autism (terminalautism@social.076.ne.jp)'s status on Saturday, 15-Oct-2022 10:45:53 JST Terminal Autism

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     • Charliebrownau
     • CapitalB
     @ryo @CapitalB @charliebrownau @mcread Only Hyperbola. I looked into this in the past and have known about Hyperbola for a few years. Anyway, it's kinda interesting, but very few people knew about Hyperbola before, and I never heard of it anywhere, and then I mentioned it in two or three places and since then I have seen it being mentioned a lot more. Still a very small thing, though. Especially when some of the people that tried it had some issue or another and concluded that it wasn't all that viable yet, but maybe it had improved. It definitely could, if more people were interested in it.
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     Charliebrownau (charliebrownau@pieville.net)'s status on Saturday, 15-Oct-2022 18:28:55 JST Charliebrownau

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     @TerminalAutism @CapitalB @mcread @ryo

     Ive been using Devuan, no subvertD with it https://www.devuan.org/

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     Terminal Autism (terminalautism@social.076.ne.jp)'s status on Saturday, 15-Oct-2022 18:30:25 JST Terminal Autism

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     • Charliebrownau
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     @charliebrownau @CapitalB @mcread @ryo I used Devuan a lot and it's definitely a good distribution. It still has systemd components (like dbus, that even the BSDs have), but that's every distribution other than Hyperbola. But Hyperbola has different priorities and doesn't compromise. They actually don't have Rust or anything written in Rust. It also has no proprietary software, it's one of the distributions approved by the FSF.
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