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   Aral Balkan (aral@mastodon.ar.al)'s status on Wednesday, 10-Jan-2024 16:43:19 JST Aral Balkan

   The W3C publishing ethical web principles is like OPEC publishing ethical climate principles.

   Who are the members of the W3C?

   Google,
   Facebook (Meta),
   Amazon,
   Adobe,
   SoftBank,
   Yahoo!,
   …

   The W3C is the standards body of surveillance capitalism.

   Ethical principles? W3C? Don’t make me laugh!

   If they’d had any ethics they’d have to expel their most prominent members starting with Google and Facebook.

   https://www.w3.org/TR/ethical-web-principles/

   #w3c #BigWeb #surveillanceCapitalism #peopleFarming #ethics #PR

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     Aral Balkan (aral@mastodon.ar.al)'s status on Wednesday, 10-Jan-2024 16:58:54 JST Aral Balkan

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     But, hey, I might be wrong and the #W3C now fully believes in its new ethical web principles. In which case, they will no doubt take action and expel members that only exist because their business model relies on violating them.

     #Google is fundamentally incompatible with the W3C’s ethical web principles and should be expelled from the W3C as it relies on violating section 2.5 (The web must…respect people’s privacy).

     Also, §2.2 (The web should not cause harm to society).

     Ditto #Facebook, etc.

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     Aral Balkan (aral@mastodon.ar.al)'s status on Wednesday, 10-Jan-2024 16:59:25 JST Aral Balkan

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     (I won’t hold my breath.)

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     Luka Rubinjoni (rubinjoni@mastodon.social)'s status on Wednesday, 10-Jan-2024 17:41:47 JST Luka Rubinjoni

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     @aral Sounds like a climate conference in Dubai.

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     Aral Balkan (aral@mastodon.ar.al)'s status on Wednesday, 10-Jan-2024 17:43:01 JST Aral Balkan

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     • David Revoy

     @davidrevoy Yep :)

     https://mastodon.ar.al/@aral/111730589640411715

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     David Revoy (davidrevoy@framapiaf.org)'s status on Wednesday, 10-Jan-2024 17:43:02 JST David Revoy

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     @aral Yes, unless they take action (and that would be very surprising), this is a clear case of "ethics washing".

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     Aral Balkan (aral@mastodon.ar.al)'s status on Wednesday, 10-Jan-2024 19:51:00 JST Aral Balkan

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     • anedroid

     @anedroid Ah, silly me.

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     anedroid (anedroid@wspanialy.eu)'s status on Wednesday, 10-Jan-2024 19:51:01 JST anedroid

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     @aral Notice what web 'should' - not 'must' (2.2, 2.12).

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     Aral Balkan (aral@mastodon.ar.al)'s status on Wednesday, 10-Jan-2024 21:32:42 JST Aral Balkan

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     • Dion Moult

     @thinkMoult Yes, there are lots of good people who work at Google, Facebook, Palatir, X, Raytheon, and ExxonMobil.

     (That doesn’t change the business models or toxic nature of those corporations. If anything, it just shields them from criticism a little. After all, if they were really that bad, would those good people work there? Sadly, of course, the answer, is yes, they would, and they do.)

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     Dion Moult (thinkmoult@mastodon.social)'s status on Wednesday, 10-Jan-2024 21:32:43 JST Dion Moult

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     @aral I might add a little bit of nuance to this. A person isn't a company, and a company isn't a person. Big companies have pockets of people doing both good and bad things for both good and bad reasons. The bigger company, the bigger the potential for both the successes and mistakes. When multiple companies collaborate, more so.

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     Daniel S. Reichenbach (danielsreichenbach@mastodon.world)'s status on Thursday, 11-Jan-2024 02:04:22 JST Daniel S. Reichenbach

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     @aral I first thought this is Aprils fools day because the irony is too high in these principles 😅 only a minority of the 375 members would be in line with these.

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     SynAck aka Little Sunshine :facepalm: (synack@corteximplant.com)'s status on Thursday, 11-Jan-2024 02:14:39 JST SynAck aka Little Sunshine :facepalm:

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     @aral Textbook case of the fox watching the hen house, I think.

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     Aral Balkan (aral@mastodon.ar.al)'s status on Thursday, 11-Jan-2024 16:38:09 JST Aral Balkan

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     • Expert Plus 🍀

     @expert Please, in the future, do a thirty second Internet search before accusing people you don’t know of disseminating false information.

     https://www.w3.org/membership/list/

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     Expert Plus 🍀 (expert@attractive.space)'s status on Thursday, 11-Jan-2024 16:38:10 JST Expert Plus 🍀

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     @aral ,

     > Who are the members of the W3C?

     > Google,
     > Facebook (Meta),
     > Amazon,
     > Adobe,
     > SoftBank,
     > Yahoo!,

     Hold on. Do you have any proof that this is true? From what source?