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   Aral Balkan (aral@mastodon.ar.al)'s status on Monday, 08-Jan-2024 23:40:14 JST Aral Balkan

   • Jan Wildeboer 😷:krulorange:

   @jwildeboer I thought we already knew the root cause: corporate greed.

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     Aral Balkan (aral@mastodon.ar.al)'s status on Tuesday, 09-Jan-2024 00:47:41 JST Aral Balkan

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     @Datenproletarier @jwildeboer Are they competing out of altruism?

     Competition is a symptom. Greed is the cause.

     (And competition isn’t even required – see monopolies.)

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     Anarchozionist (datenproletarier@chaos.social)'s status on Tuesday, 09-Jan-2024 00:47:42 JST Anarchozionist

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     @aral @jwildeboer
     Hard no! Greed is not at all a valid category to criticise anything in capitalism. It's pure competition that forces capitalist to always maximize their profits and hoard even more capital than the competition.

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     Aral Balkan (aral@mastodon.ar.al)'s status on Tuesday, 09-Jan-2024 03:21:52 JST Aral Balkan

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     • Evan Wittman

     @Datenproletarier @scadoosh @jwildeboer I’d like to see the Venn diagram between greedy people and capitalists because I have a feeling it’s a perfect circle.

     Not sure there are that many greedy anarchists or socialists walking around. At least not that I’ve met.

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     Anarchozionist (datenproletarier@chaos.social)'s status on Tuesday, 09-Jan-2024 03:21:53 JST Anarchozionist

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     @scadoosh @aral @jwildeboer

     I did not.

     https://inthesetimes.com/article/capitalism-marx-engels-economic-theory-greed-grow-or-die-accumulation

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     Evan Wittman (scadoosh@infosec.exchange)'s status on Tuesday, 09-Jan-2024 03:21:58 JST Evan Wittman

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     @Datenproletarier @aral @jwildeboer

     You just defined greed.

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     Aral Balkan (aral@mastodon.ar.al)'s status on Tuesday, 09-Jan-2024 03:55:04 JST Aral Balkan

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     • Evan Wittman

     @Datenproletarier @scadoosh @jwildeboer To be fair, I’m really not that bothered by splitting hairs. If you’re telling me capitalists are not greedy people, we disagree. But I really have better things to do.

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     Anarchozionist (datenproletarier@chaos.social)'s status on Tuesday, 09-Jan-2024 03:55:05 JST Anarchozionist

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     @aral @scadoosh @jwildeboer
     Are you intentionally using a straw man or did you not understand my criticism?