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   Justin 🌻 (onyxraven@hachyderm.io)'s status on Monday, 08-Jan-2024 12:16:23 JST Justin 🌻

   • Thomas 🔭🕹️

   @thomasfuchs frankly it’s why I want to try out the apple dingus, big virtual desktop.

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     ROTOPE~1 :yell: (rotopenguin@mastodon.social)'s status on Monday, 08-Jan-2024 12:21:09 JST ROTOPE~1 :yell:

     • Thomas 🔭🕹️

     @thomasfuchs don't you want something that's like a really big monitor, but more expensive and hurts your neck and sometimes makes you throw up?

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     JimmyChezPants (jpaskaruk@growers.social)'s status on Monday, 08-Jan-2024 12:31:47 JST JimmyChezPants

     • Thomas 🔭🕹️

     @thomasfuchs

     90s: As Lawnmower Man demonstrates, in the future we will all be addicted to VR as a form of neuropornography that is better than any chemical mindbending process.

     VR Now:

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     I keep it around for luck. (joule@mastodon.social)'s status on Monday, 08-Jan-2024 12:51:15 JST I keep it around for luck.

     • Thomas 🔭🕹️

     @thomasfuchs folks who do forex trading have a minimum of 6 monitors in front of them. Window Media App for VR lets you place dozens of monitors in front of you. It's a win on so many levels, especially on power consumption.

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     I keep it around for luck. (joule@mastodon.social)'s status on Monday, 08-Jan-2024 12:59:27 JST I keep it around for luck.

     • Thomas 🔭🕹️

     @thomasfuchs the mixed realty portal is still working and hasn't gone away. It comes with a desktop feature which allows you to open up as many screens as your heart desires.

     here: https://apps.microsoft.com/detail/9NG1H8B3ZC7M

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     Joseph Kohlmann (jkohlmann@mastodon.social)'s status on Monday, 08-Jan-2024 13:07:54 JST Joseph Kohlmann

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     @rotopenguin @thomasfuchs Like, no, I want to use a physical keyboard and feel the afternoon sun on my face from outside my window. If I have to write a fucking email, at least give me that

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     Joseph Kohlmann (jkohlmann@mastodon.social)'s status on Monday, 08-Jan-2024 13:07:55 JST Joseph Kohlmann

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     @rotopenguin @thomasfuchs And don’t you want to answer emails in it?!

     Seriously, I find the general work productivity angle of this device and its software to be boring, predictable, and quite perverse

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     Joseph Kohlmann (jkohlmann@mastodon.social)'s status on Monday, 08-Jan-2024 13:19:41 JST Joseph Kohlmann

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     @paninid @jalcine @rotopenguin @thomasfuchs I personally find the latter to be inexplicable. Maybe this works out in retrospect, i.e. Apple Vision Pro ends up being a hulking Apple Lisa of a commercial prototype, but it’ll take a few years, possibly even a decade to become something other than a doofy “helmet computer”

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     Joseph Kohlmann (jkohlmann@mastodon.social)'s status on Monday, 08-Jan-2024 13:19:42 JST Joseph Kohlmann

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     @paninid @jalcine @rotopenguin @thomasfuchs Yes and no: I agree with you that it explains a lot. It also shows how the people funding and promoting the concept are doing so in spite of itself

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     Joseph Kohlmann (jkohlmann@mastodon.social)'s status on Monday, 08-Jan-2024 13:19:44 JST Joseph Kohlmann

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     @jalcine @rotopenguin @thomasfuchs Seriously. Look, VR’s cool, but it’s going to be a tablet-like also-ran interface paradigm at best, not a paradigm shift like personal desktop computers or smartphones. Also, the fact that you can’t gather ’round a screen or hold up a phone to someone else isn’t lost on me here; the form factor itself is directly antisocial and isolating

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     Coach Pāṇini ® (paninid@mastodon.world)'s status on Monday, 08-Jan-2024 13:19:44 JST Coach Pāṇini ®

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     @jkohlmann @jalcine @rotopenguin @thomasfuchs
     Which kinda explains the mindset and principles of the people funding and promoting the concept.

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     ✌🏿✍🏿 (jalcine@todon.eu)'s status on Monday, 08-Jan-2024 13:19:47 JST ✌🏿✍🏿

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     @jkohlmann lmfaoooooo the bare minimum

     @rotopenguin @thomasfuchs

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     Joseph Kohlmann (jkohlmann@mastodon.social)'s status on Monday, 08-Jan-2024 13:28:43 JST Joseph Kohlmann

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     @thomasfuchs @paninid @jalcine @rotopenguin Yup. If there’s ever a version of this technology that is compelling, it will require an entirely different form factor, like standard-size eyeglasses (not fucking Oakleys) or a Focus (a small temple-mounted holoprojector)

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     don Elías (como los buses) 🥨 (donelias@mastodon.cr)'s status on Monday, 08-Jan-2024 13:29:39 JST don Elías (como los buses) 🥨

     • Thomas 🔭🕹️

     @thomasfuchs I recently saw some billboard ads from Universities and ISPs depicting people wearing VR headsets and I cannot believe that so many people can ignore that having something covering part of your face especially your sight is something that most humans are afraid of. I mean, it's like having your head inside plastic bucket, it looks so unnatural and scary, not innovative.

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     Joseph Kohlmann (jkohlmann@mastodon.social)'s status on Monday, 08-Jan-2024 13:31:46 JST Joseph Kohlmann

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     @thomasfuchs @paninid @jalcine @rotopenguin Yup, which is just as well if you ask me

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     Joseph Kohlmann (jkohlmann@mastodon.social)'s status on Monday, 08-Jan-2024 13:49:56 JST Joseph Kohlmann

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     @thomasfuchs @paninid @jalcine @rotopenguin Yeah, no…that’d be a scary new form of eye strain, I bet 🙃

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     Andrei Kucharavy (andrei_chiffa@mastodon.social)'s status on Tuesday, 09-Jan-2024 00:23:18 JST Andrei Kucharavy

     • Thomas 🔭🕹️

     @thomasfuchs

     There’s a really great presentation from Alan Kay from ~5 years ago where he makes a great point that VR/AR allows GUIs that we can barely dream of in the age of monitors.

     And in the same way we needed to have screens and electronics powerful, efficient and compact enough to get first PCs and then smartphones, VR/AR needed progress in display and GPU tech to match retina resolution and zero out the rendering lag.

     If Apple is going for it, we might be just close enough.