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    🇺🇸 🇺🇦 🇮🇱 🐧 🥦 (methylcobalamin@mastodon.social)'s status on Sunday, 07-Jan-2024 01:51:41 JST 🇺🇸 🇺🇦 🇮🇱 🐧 🥦 🇺🇸 🇺🇦 🇮🇱 🐧 🥦

    #QuotePosts are coming to #Mastodon. It is on the #RoadMap of #features to implement.

    Here is a #FeatureRequest to opt out of quote posts. Please vote:

    https://github.com/mastodon/mastodon/issues/25735

    Here is an interesting article about research on quote posts or #QuoteTweets

    https://absolutelymaybe.plos.org/2023/01/12/quote-tweeting-over-30-studies-dispel-some-myths/

    In conversation Sunday, 07-Jan-2024 01:51:41 JST from mastodon.social permalink

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      Quote Tweeting: Over 30 Studies Dispel Some Myths - Absolutely Maybe
      from Hilda Bastian
      The first myth to dispense with: That there’s almost no research on quote tweets! I added to this misconception with my December…

    2. https://files.mastodon.social/media_attachments/files/111/703/645/347/006/412/original/df7e2b5f0b8f3c4a.png
    • Yohan Yukiya Sese Cuneta 사요한🦣 and 🎓 Doc Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 repeated this.
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      :mima_rule: Mima-sama (mima@makai.chaotic.ninja)'s status on Sunday, 07-Jan-2024 01:51:40 JST :mima_rule: Mima-sama :mima_rule: Mima-sama
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      No, do NOT vote for this issue. 👎

      We do not need another case of #Mastodon strong-arming other developers of the #fediverse into being compatible with their implementation just because they're the most-used software out there.

      @Methylcobalamin@mastodon.social

      RE: https://makai.chaotic.ninja/notes/9o4ztztyc8

      In conversation Sunday, 07-Jan-2024 01:51:40 JST permalink

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      1. Domain not in remote thumbnail source whitelist: makai.chaotic.ninja
        :mima_rule: Mima-sama (@mima)
        **PLEASE DO NOT VOTE FOR** this issue. :RumiaPray: If you are on a #fediverse software other than #Mastodon (like #Misskey, #Pleroma, #Akkoma, #Sharkey, and #Friendica), please give the issue's [first post](https://github.com/mastodon/mastodon/issues/25735#issue-1789258671) a 👎. If this "privacy setting" for #quoteposts is implemented with it enabled by default, the result will be disastrous. :reisensweat: Since there is no other way to enforce this setting other than #defederation, we are going to see Mastodon servers strong-arming those software developers who are "non-compliant" by threatening a #fediblock. :reisensweat: Developers of the -key and -oma families will suddenly have to scramble to make their implementation of #quotetweets compatible with Mastodon's "privacy-friendly" implementation. :satsuki_sadge: This way of "extending" the fediverse is not acceptable, and everyone who has opposed #Facebook joining the fediverse due to #EmbraceExtendExtinguish should also oppose this issue which just eventually leads to the same result. #fediversemeta #fediblockmeta #EEE RN: #QuotePosts are coming to #Mastodon. It is on the #RoadMap of #features to implement. Here is a #FeatureRequest to opt out of quote posts. Please vote: https://github.com/mastodon/mastodon/issues/25735 Here is an interesting article about research on quote posts or #QuoteTweets https://absolutelymaybe.plos.org/2023/01/12/quote-tweeting-over-30-studies-dispel-some-myths/ (📎1)
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      🎓 Doc Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 (freemo@qoto.org)'s status on Sunday, 07-Jan-2024 01:53:42 JST 🎓 Doc Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 🎓 Doc Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱
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      • :mima_rule: Mima-sama

      @mima

      Lets build towards standards and let mastodon silo themselves if they want.

      @Methylcobalamin

      In conversation Sunday, 07-Jan-2024 01:53:42 JST permalink
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      🇺🇸 🇺🇦 🇮🇱 🐧 🥦 (methylcobalamin@mastodon.social)'s status on Sunday, 07-Jan-2024 01:53:57 JST 🇺🇸 🇺🇦 🇮🇱 🐧 🥦 🇺🇸 🇺🇦 🇮🇱 🐧 🥦
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      • :mima_rule: Mima-sama

      @mima

      Decisions about new software features should be made on the basis of whether or not the end users will find the features helpful.

      Not if the feature is too hard for particular developers.

      No disrespect meant.

      In conversation Sunday, 07-Jan-2024 01:53:57 JST permalink

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      Yohan Yukiya Sese Cuneta 사요한🦣 repeated this.
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      :mima_rule: Mima-sama (mima@makai.chaotic.ninja)'s status on Sunday, 07-Jan-2024 01:53:57 JST :mima_rule: Mima-sama :mima_rule: Mima-sama
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      @Methylcobalamin@mastodon.social And it is still useless if not counterintuitive for the end user anyway because it is too trivial to circumvent (even unintentionally!) the security theatre that #Mastodon feature request is proposing. Which means to truly enforce the user's "request" (it's turned on by default btw which makes it even worse) to not quote their post, the instance's admin will have to defederate all instances that don't support Mastodon's "privacy setting" for #quoteposts. Which then means less useful timelines and broken social connections for the end users because congratulations, you just placed a #fediblock on the rest of the vast #fediverse using software like #Misskey, #Pleroma, #Akkoma, #Sharkey, #Hubzilla, #Friendica, etc.!

      So how is this helpful for the end user, again? :sagume_think:

      In conversation Sunday, 07-Jan-2024 01:53:57 JST permalink

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