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   Yohan Yukiya Sese Cuneta 사요한🦣 (youronlyone@c.im)'s status on Sunday, 07-Jan-2024 01:27:42 JST Yohan Yukiya Sese Cuneta 사요한🦣

   @retrobeetism I have a similar experience. #Guppe groups (at least after it went offline for almost a month(?)) rarely works all other #Fediverse platforms (those I've tried). But #Chirp groups, #Friendica forums, #Kbin magazine, and #Lemmy communities, there are rarely any problems.

   My brain tells me that the issue is with Guppe platform, since all other similar software works fine. They did something to break interoperability with the rest of the Fediverse, and created its own bubble with Mastodon.

   @007 @ArtBear

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     Bumble (bumble@ibe.social)'s status on Sunday, 07-Jan-2024 01:37:46 JST Bumble

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     @youronlyone@c.im @retrobeetism@catodon.social
     
     #Guppe for us has been a problem for a long time. Users on our Firefish server just can't follow them. #Chirp too has issues. Especially inbound. The responses are malformed. Right now I have 11 in our Inbound queue which will eventually fail and disappear, so the subscribe user will never see the message.
     
     From what others more knowledgeable that me have said, the implementation of ActivityPub for these services is poorly constructed and have been cobbled together for Mastodon servers
     
     @007@catodon.social @ArtBear@catodon.social

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     Yohan Yukiya Sese Cuneta 사요한🦣 (youronlyone@c.im)'s status on Sunday, 07-Jan-2024 01:44:09 JST Yohan Yukiya Sese Cuneta 사요한🦣

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     • Bumble

     @bumble That reminded me of the major debate when Mastodon first came into the picture. Mastodon started to do things on their own, which existing fediverse platforms didn't like.

     Then repositioned itself as the “prime example of the still being developed ActivityPub protocol”, which further heated the debate on how Mastodon is doing things. Only later, still do things on its own (this time, stuff not in the ActivityPub protocol).

     Eventually, everyone else were forced to implement stuff just to be compatible with Mastodon (not ActivityPub per se).

     I guess, that issue from 10 years ago is once again showing up. “Be compatible with Mastodon, not ActivityPub itself.”

     @007 @ArtBear @retrobeetism

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     Yohan Yukiya Sese Cuneta 사요한🦣 (youronlyone@c.im)'s status on Sunday, 07-Jan-2024 01:54:04 JST Yohan Yukiya Sese Cuneta 사요한🦣

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     • Bumble

     @bumble Talk about that, here's a similar post just now (different thread).

     https://makai.chaotic.ninja/notes/9o4zyffwcm

     To quote: “We do not need another case of #Mastodon strong-arming other developers of the #fediverse into being compatible with their implementation just because they're the most-used software out there.” -- @-mima@makai.chaotic.ninja

     @007 @ArtBear @retrobeetism